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worldwood said:
Yes, they get pretty damn thin towards the edge on the comp cutters.

But your making this too easy for me bud....



First you need to try out a PROPERLY applied V edge on that BK9 before you can make that assumption :p

Of course once you sharpen a stock knife up to a mirror polished convex it performs better.... Take a BK9, stock, and put a properly applied mirror polished 17° per side V on it and then tell me it doesnt bite deeper than a convex edge at the same edge thickness swung with the same force and both with perfect technique.

Now if you happen to torque the knife in the wood.... Then a convex will bet better off due to more meat behind the edge. Its definitely a stronger edge and more easily maintained, id never argue that.... But saying one performs better in both slicing and chopping.... Come on now... If that was the case, all knives would come with convexed edges. Makers still using V edges wuoldnt be able to sell anything. Both are being sold because both have the ups, and both have their downs...

BUT the major ups for convex is easier to apply/maintain and stronger, NOW THIS is just fact, but saying either is absolutely better than the other for both chopping and slicing is LUDICROUS :D
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You make a lot of good points.
I can sharpen a stock BK9 with a perfect edge. 20 degree, 17, 15...
Thinner will out chop thicker. I'm not assuming.
If I take that same edge and convex it properly, it will out chop and out perform the V edge.
That's just the way it is. (For me and my experience...:D)
The convex takes away from the V the angled shoulder where the bevel and edge meet.
Less material and a smoother transition. Makes it slice and chop through material easier.

By the way, I'm out in my backyard with my Siegle Bushcrafter. It has a wicked 15 degree V edge that I put on it.
 
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Jonny1280 said:
You make a lot of good points.
I can sharpen a stock BK9 with a perfect edge. 20 degree, 17, 15...
Thinner will out chop thicker. I'm not assuming.
If I take that same edge and convex it properly, it will out chop and out perform the V edge.
That's just the way it is. (For me and my experience...:D)

By the way, I'm out in my backyard with my Siegle Bushcrafter. It has a wicked 15 degree V edge that I put on it.
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Just because you put the knife on your belt doesnt mean you put the edge on the knife :p



We got any diabetics here that need a blood meter thingy? My wife brought a OneTouch blood sugar meter thingy home a while ago so i can check my levels... Im done with it, so if one of you beckerheads want/need a blood reader thingy let me know and ill send it your way. My wife only brought home a few of the test strips and needle pieces though, and i have already used those.... But it does come in a nice little case. Other than that i dont know anything about it really as im not diabetic....

Ill send it free to the first beckerhead that asks... But please only ask if you or a direct family/friend could actually use it. I was thinking of re-purposing the case, but figured this would be a better/nicer option.

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granitestateofmind said:
Funny. I like that the "American" Tomahawk Company has a label that says "Made in China".....still and all, it was cheap and it's fun to throw. I'd get another, but the place I bought it still hasn't replaced their stock after I bought mine....need to get two of the same for double throwing....

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Mine said Taiwan. Past tense...
 
Ray Settanta said:
So, WW, do those comp cutters have a very deep, thin V grind?
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Most, if not all the ones i looked at had V edges. All the ones i payed attention to did for sure, but i dont want to say 100% of them did since i didnt spend as much time with each one... I did check out each one, but excitement had my mind on thousands of things LOL

Thicknesses varied a lot. But for the most part yes they are thin edges. After a couple of the classes/lessons it was pretty obvious why some knives performed better than others. In fact several people ended up leaving their knives on the table and using one of Dan's.... Dan is just awesome like that, he would let anyone that was there just go to town with his thousand dollar competition knives... Awesome guy i tell ya what!!

I took this picture when we were checking to make sure every knife was legal to compete with. There were a few more than this brought, but these were the ones being used in the competition for the most part. In the top left that is Brad from PHT, and he is holding a wooden jig they use to check sizes.

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TBL said:
My knife is sharper then your knife :D:rolleyes::foot:

Snark :D
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Talk is cheap!! Prove it :D HAHA

Im FAR from the best sharpener... But i know a guy or 2 :D .... For the couple blades i have that i need/want super sharp... I let a real pro handle that.
 
Just got home a few hours ago from Fredericksburg. Mom ran in the Marine Corps Half Marathon, the terrorism threat level was really high, so there were snipers on the roof of the building next to the start, and SWAT teams all over. Sorta scary that they expected something enough to do all that. Glad nothing happened though. :thumbup: Ton's of veterans ran it too, some even wore rucksacks and carried flags.. Pretty cool to watch.

Thanks to all you Beckerheads who served or are serving. :thumbup:
 
I'd love to check out one of those competitions.
From the YouTube vids that I've seen it's just amazing how accurate and precise those guys are.
 
Marines seem to like to run, and chant when they run in groups.
You leathernecks are thinking of one or two chants right now! :D

I think I need to start running...
 
worldwood said:
Talk is cheap!! Prove it :D HAHA
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Lol there ya go!
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I've been teaching myself to use stones. I started on a chinese Buck copy and got it screaming sharp, thought 'hell if I could make this thing shave any part of me smooth with this...I'll keep trying it out on all my knives'. Next up was my BK15, all I had to do was touch a spot on my arm and all the hair disappeared. It also went through thick cardboard like butter... so I went on to the next blade and the next blade and the next blade and finally I ended up on my expensive knives. Took a deep breath and did my ZT's (ended up lopping part of my finger off with the 0562 after :rolleyes:). Its almost completely healed up :thumbup:.

Its weird, on all the steels that I've sharpened; The only one that I can't get absolutely crazy sharp is S30V. The really cheap unknown Chinese steel, 420hc, 1095cv, S35VN, and Elmax are all so crazy sharp. I may just have to give em another go, admittedly they were the last to get worked on. They get a great working edge, but they don't seem to whittle hairs or 'grab' like the others.
 
Jonny1280 said:
I'd love to check out one of those competitions.
From the YouTube vids that I've seen it's just amazing how accurate and precise those guys are.
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Dan is back living in Washington now, I guess now he is Doctor Dan HAHA, if i was you id hit him up to find out about going to one of the training/certifying events. Its one thing to watch.. Awesome in its own right dont get me wrong, but its quite another to actually compete in the full courses. And honestly you learn A LOT from a single weekend. The competition is LOADS of fun... But the training was the part i really enjoyed and appreciated the most. You compete for around 2 minutes or less, but you spend hours learning and cutting, thats just plain AWESOME.

Last i heard they are having an event in August again in Meadville PA at Peter's Heat Treat... I know that's not close to you Jonny but anyone that could possibly get signed up to go should, not only do you get to learn about knives and how to use them more efficiently, but you get to check out one of, if not the, best heat treat facility there is.

I'll be moved by then... Thats probably going to be the only thing i "regret" about moving.
 
Should get my BK15 tomorrow. Got some char cloth fixed up tonight just to try it. Gonna hopefully go camping on Tuesday and/or Wednesday night using just the 15 (per JT's challenge).
 
Very nice TBL. Which stones do you have? I'm in the market. I've been using a Smiths system but don't like the whole gadgety setup anymore. Just been using the stone thingies free hand and it works great on tweeners and smaller but it gets old on anything larger.
 
worldwood said:
Just because you put the knife on your belt doesnt mean you put the edge on the knife :p



We got any diabetics here that need a blood meter thingy? My wife brought a OneTouch blood sugar meter thingy home a while ago so i can check my levels... Im done with it, so if one of you beckerheads want/need a blood reader thingy let me know and ill send it your way. My wife only brought home a few of the test strips and needle pieces though, and i have already used those.... But it does come in a nice little case. Other than that i dont know anything about it really as im not diabetic....

Ill send it free to the first beckerhead that asks... But please only ask if you or a direct family/friend could actually use it. I was thinking of re-purposing the case, but figured this would be a better/nicer option.

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Funny you should post this right now....my mom's a diabetic and I just posted a BK2 GAW to raise funds for the Tour de Cure I'll be riding in a couple weekends....
 
granitestateofmind said:
Funny you should post this right now....my mom's a diabetic and I just posted a BK2 GAW to raise funds for the Tour de Cure I'll be riding in a couple weekends....
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Granite - FYI, your donation link seems to be broke.

I screwed with it in my address bar and got it to work... It looks like you're hashing it out now too.... Nevermind!
 
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NCSlice said:
Very nice TBL. Which stones do you have? I'm in the market. I've been using a Smiths system but don't like the whole gadgety setup anymore. Just been using the stone thingies free hand and it works great on tweeners and smaller but it gets old on anything larger.
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Smith's Tri-hone with my guide wedges being cut from my chop saw at different degrees.
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I agree, it works really well on smaller knives. Largest I use on it is my BK5, and it required more concentration hehe.
 
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