Non-Knife People and Their Knives are Driving Me Nuts!!!

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I'm the only knife person on my job, when ever I pull out my Large Sebenza to cut something, I get the same questions from my collogues:

Q: How much did that cost?

A: $325

Wow that's way too much.

Q: So you like knives, have you ever bought a knife on Home Shopping Network?

A: No those are junk.

But you get like 100 knives for $40.

Q: Is that Illegal? It could reach a vital organ.

A: No it's not, it's under 4 inches.

Hmmm, seems dangerous!!! (This from someone who uses their teeth to open packages)

Q: How do you sharpen your knives? I use the thing on my can opener.

A: Freehand with one of my stones.

Can you sharpen mine?

I've had one guy pull out an imitation SAK all gummed up and asked me to sharpen it, it had absolutely no edge. He was sharpening it on a marble table we use in the lab for vibration isolation. The edge was as blunt as the back of the blade.

Saturday one guy asked me to sharpen a cheep lock-back that I had to use a wooden stick on to dig out the pocket lint with. There was rust, goo, and hardened epoxy on the blade.

I wish these knuckleheads would just try using a good knife, I'm sure we'd have more knife enthusiasts among us. But damned if I'm going to let them use mine!!!


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LD
"Every Dog Has His Day"
BFC Member Since October 2, 1998

 
Lucky Dog, are you a lab person too. Lab rats rule!

I feel your pain. My supervisor goes around ordering anyone with a knife (opened or closed) to "put that thing away before you cut yourself". He must be the sheepest of sheeple. I don't think that he has anything against knives but rather the safety incident rate. Even a paper cut must be recorded and reported to OSHA. If anyone should cut their hand with a knife the sh** really starts to roll downhill. Next thing you know all knives will banned on company property! Yes, non-knife people are pushing my buttons too (rant mode off).

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[This message has been edited by LabRat (edited 17 October 1999).]
 
I here that from my buddys,wow $200....then you get that ..................pause, then the insult, YOUR F#@&@#@ NUTS!!!!!I would never spend that for a knife!!!so to each his own
Jay
 
Lab Rat, I've spent the last 26 years doing Photonic R&D. I'm a lab rat with the heart of a dog and the build of a bear.
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LD
"Every Dog Has His Day"
BFC Member Since October 2, 1998

 
Wow!! Two other lab rats, plus me! And we love knives!! Small world, huh?
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A co-worker just ordered something like 10 folders for $20 from the HSN, and he's already on the seventh one...and this was just a couple of months ago! Basically they were Sypderco Endura ripoffs...
so anyway at the local gun show I came across an Endura for a very low price, and I bought one for my buddy for his B-day. The first thing he did was run his thumb across the blade ( before I could warn him); and since he was used to the HSN crap, he ran that thumb pretty firmly across that razor sharp Spyderco edge. Well, lets just say that all the blood on his shirt convinced him of how CHEAP those HSN knives are!

 
At a knife show, I like to a bandaid or two out at my table, to remind even the initiated, let alone the Others, that this is an orderly universe.

Most of the "general public" think a Spyderco Delica/Endura and other knives in that range of price and quality are exotic and expensive, and many have no idea how to close one and try to open the funny little "blade" on the back of the handle, as if it was a Swiss Army.

We are missionaries surrounded by heathen.
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Something between a Spyderco Dragonfly and a Delica or a Benchmade 820/825, or other knives in that range, may be a good introduction to Good Folders, to be given to a non-knife person on some excuse for a gift-giving occasion. Perhaps with a band-aid secured to the outside of the box as a hint that this knife cuts better than the cheap ones.

The Wife was a non-knife person for a long time. I finally got her to carry a Dragonfly. She said many times that she was only carrying it to humor me, until she had the great Moment of Enlightenment - she reached for it to cut something in the office and found she had forgotten it, and felt naked!

Now she's stepped up to a Spyderco-Herbst. It would have been a William Henry, but she didn't care for the carbon fiber that was the only model with a clip.

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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
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I bought a Ladybug with a carbon fiber handle and ATS-55 steel for $32. When I told Dad how much I paid for it, he said, "Ouch! They didn't even use vaseline when they sold it to you." ;f He is a knife collector and is the one who got me started on folders. There's no way I'm telling him how much I paid for the Dyad!
 
I've mentioned this elsewhere before...I had a lady once berate me for carrying a "deadly weapon" (I was cutting paper with the scissors on my tiny Victorinox SAK Classic, closed length 2 and 1/4 inches).

While looking at a knife display once at a Sports Authority, a middle-aged guy was explaining how any one-hand opener with a stud or blade hole and over 2 and 1/2 inches long was illegal. He then pulled out a cheap PRC-made, fake Spyderco Delica and was trying to impress his listeners...of course, HIS knife was all legal to carry. His audience of four was listening all intently (the blind leading the blind?).

I also once, in court reporting school, made the mistake of opening my Victorinox SAK Spartan to cut some string while helping set up for a party. The teacher later made a remark that pretty soon the room would probably be full of dead bodies "like the Friday the 13th movies," and for everyone to be "extra nice" to me.
Jim
 
Tell me about it! As you guys know, i have many treads with the same issue. They'll ask how much it cost and start lecturing you about the how the 'same' knife (anything that is made out of steel and an edge to it) will perform the same task and cost much less. What's worst is they'll tell you how stupid you are for paying that much for a knife! But when i ask them why they paid so much for their Posh or Ferraris when a normal car will do, they'll say "Oh, it's different! Mine's an investment but not yours!" F them!
There was once where my superior saw me touching up the edge on my P.Hobbit, he ask me to put it away and don't "play" with it? cause i might cut myself? huh? I may handle more knives then he handles his own John!
And i get the occasional "Oh No! He carries a knife so therefore we should be nicer to him for he might cut us to pieces!" with my Delica? My bottoms!
There! i feel so much better!

[This message has been edited by keninshiro (edited 17 October 1999).]
 
Knives are like a good cigar or fine wine. Some people can't appreciate them.

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I don't care what people think when I open my Axis. I love my knife and it is an important tool. It is also perfectly legal. My first folder was a Gerber EZ-OUT and I thought it was great. My first car was a 67 rambler and I thought it was great too. Funny how your standards change with time.
JP
 
You're poor guys overthere in the states. Here in germany it is legal to even carry a sword on the street an carrying a knife is so normal nobody would take a second look.

Achim
 
Sheepies & non knife ppl REALLY crack me up!
I just ignore them. Unless, like has happened to me on various occasions (usually parties) some "knife conniseur" clueless moron tries to impress ppl with their Pakistani/Chinese "Tactical Folder Of Tin" I just CANNOT resist & am quite EVIL by nonchalantly pulling one of my custom FB's either a MD, REKAT or JSP & going: Hey there fruity... put that crap away b4 it melts... I just LOVE the look on the poor saps face... Hahahaha...

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Attila
 
Wow, I think most people's coworkers are just plain unfriendly! Cursing at you for buying an 'expensive' knife? Here in Holland, most people tend to be surprised when I pull out a small knife (ok my 'benza is not really small, but is to me
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), but after they see how much better it works than nails and teeth they usually get back to normal. Ofcourse, they sometimes get shocked if I would tell them how much it it costs, but settle down as soon as I explain what goes into making and designing such a high quality knife. I like the wine/cigar analogy though.
Also, I started with my first conversion. My Jiu Jitsu training partner finally got interested in my hobby enough to look for a knife for himself, a couple of weeks ago. His first interest was to get a nice defensive folder, but he also had some cosmetic demands for the knife. I managed to get him on to a spyderco knife, and now he is very happy with his steel handled plain edged delica. The best thing is that after a week or so he praises not the defensive capabilities of his knife, but how well it works for everyday cutting stuff. Yes, brethren he truly sees the light, and now to suck him into the pit of ultimate darkness and lure him into buying a Spyderco Military heheheheheh...
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I finally met my match.A colleague asked me to PLEASE sharpen his knife,which was as big a POS as I've seen lately.After spending way too much time on it, I GAVE him a pretty decent (and very sharp)knife which was a duplicate in my collection, just to keep from fooling with his tinkertoy any more! At least his new knife can be sharpened!(Am waiting to hear about the first bloodletting with a sharp knife).

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You guys have been mostly commenting on the Sheeple portion of my post; what about the condition of the knives these non-knife people keep their knives in when they do carry one? It's just unbelievable!!! That's what really makes me crazy!!! They show no respect for their tools. They put them back in their pockets with glue, water, epoxy, gunk, and God knows what all over them!!! Forget about the knife for a second (I know, very hard to do) who wants anything filthy in their pocket? Yuck!!!

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LD
"Every Dog Has His Day"
BFC Member Since October 2, 1998

 
A pretty good friend of mine can appreciate the knives I show him, although I'm sure he questions the $$$ sometimes. He carries a stained & pitted Case stockman with dull edges. No problem, that's how he likes it... My mother-in-law cringed when I pulled out a scrimshawed 3.5" (closed) lockback. "Wow, that's a BIG knife!" she said. I just looked at her like she's crazy and that was the end of it.

I'm at the point now where I don't even make a big deal about the knife that's in my pocket. When I need to use it I pull it out nonchalantly, perform the task at hand, and then put it away.

My Spyderco Dragonfly is the user of my carry knives and won't turn too many people away. The 710 in my waistband stays put unless there's something really (really) serious.

Jon
 
Whenever we have a department meeting, it never fails, something needs to be cut - a box, a wire tie, whatever - When this happens, it's almost comedic the way that the entire room takes one almost involuntary step back away from me after hearing the phrase: "Does anyone have a knife?".
 
LMAO, LUCKY DOG!!!!!!! The one I like is when as soon as someone finds out I make knives, they whip out a couple and ask me if I'll sharpen them for them, and how much I'll charge.

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"Always think of your fellow knife makers as partners in the search for the perfect blade, not as people trying to compete with you and your work!"
 
In my circles, people don't ask "Does anybody have a knife?" They just say "Jim!"

And some people then step back three feet when I produce the knife they asked me to produce.

I can also get the Cringe reaction if I offer a knife to somebody who is trying to open a box with car keys or something equally unsuitable.

Then there are all the people who say, of any knife I carry from a full-size sport-utility folder to a Dragonfly or an SAK, "You could really hurt somebody with that!" I usually answer, "Yes, but why would I want to do that?"


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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
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