Not impressed with my first Becker

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I have never owned any other fixed blade before but I have used many and I am smart enough to know its not a good idea to lay your knife on the ground in a campsite especially when there are dogs and other people around. Hope this clears things up for you. ;)

....why not just put it back in the sheath? was the tree a more appealing option? I find keeping a knife in its sheath and on you is a better option than laying it on the floor of a campsite or shanking a tree with it :D
 
Metal-on-metal will always work loose when vibration is introduced. I always use a little touch of blue loctite on my knife screws, no matter if my my Beckers that get used hard or my Kershaws that are used mostly for box cutting. Once you spend enough time developing your knife skills, you'll learn what works and what doesn't. I'm not trying to bust your balls, but reading your story says to me that you just have a few things to learn. IF I leave my knife in a tree, I won't stab it. I'll take a swing that leaves the belly of the knife stuck in the tree, rather than the tip. It's better for the blade, for sure, as that's the part that's meant to take those blows.
 
"Interesting ... since this was "your first fixed blade knife" Guess it must have been all those Hinderer 18's you've been using before
Welcome to the Forum ... Dude"

Not exactly sure what your getting at here.

Of this, I have no dought

I have never owned any other fixed blade before but I have used many and I am smart enough to know its not a good idea to lay your knife on the ground in a campsite especially when there are dogs and other people around.

Hope this clears things up for you.;)

CRYSTAL :D

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The old coating (flat, non-textured) was not very durable, hence the switch to the newer coatings. Since there are so many still in stock with the older coatings, the newer coating has not been applied to the main knives of the Becker lineup yet. As far as the handles, while it does suck that you had issues with loosening so early on, had you lost anything Kabar would have gladly shipped you replacement bits. I am unsure if this happens with other knives with such easily removable handles, but solutions have been mentioned here by others, although my personal method that works for me is nylon lock nuts. You want to replace the screws and nuts anyway as they will rust eventually. Stainless is the way to go.

The tip dulling I don't have a suggestion for. Maybe there was something in the bark, maybe there was a knot or something, or maybe the knife itself has a bad heat treat. It has happened, and it will happen again. I did learn recently that tree bark will carry dirt and sediment upwards along the bark somewhat, so there is a tiny chance that the bark had something pretty rough in it, but that is just a guess. Either way, Beckers are great knives, but that doesn't mean there aren't lemons, and that doesn't mean that everyone has to like them.

You may not get it, may not see the allure, but there are a ton of us that do. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. However, unless you came in here to just try and start something (which is silly), I am betting you wanted to find out more, and maybe give that knife another chance. This is a great community (even though some of us can come across as a tad abrasive, really, most of us aren't, we are just very defensive of our choices) and if you stick around you are almost guaranteed to learn something and maybe even see that knife in a different light. We live for pics, so pics of this knife would be awesome, and if you have any questions feel free to ask.
 
If I remember, I think there was a bad batch of 7s so they loose the edge or chips more frequently, I remember a topic where Ethan talked to a guy where he had the same problem.

Also the coating is very simple made, it is on intention has many strip it's paint and trade for a duracoat or patina it or polishes it, and even good quality coating don last more than 30-40 pieces of firewood to start riping off.

Also just has a tip to prevent loosing anything the place of a knife is in it's sheath. Remeber leave only footprints, try to minimize the damage o any tree.
 
Hi Connorr!
Welcome to the forum.
I'm sorry to hear you were unimpressed by your BK-7.
I've heard of the nuts loosening from the bolts before. I personally have not had this be an issue.
I do however tighten the bolts down when I recieve a new Becker in the mail.
They're not torqued tight from the factory.

Now, here's my stance on battoning with a blade.
It's nice to know I have a knife that can handle it. However, if I need to split wood I'm going to use an ax or hatchet.
I have a Fiskars hatchet that works wonderfully. It was cheap too.
Battoning a blade has got to be one of the hardest things on a blade that I can imagine.
When does one really need to batton their knife?
Aside from any type of survival situation.
Battoning knives has become a fad. A "Hey look how tough my knife is" type of thing.
Just because there are so many youtube vids showing people beating the living hell out of their knives, does'nt mean I'm going to do it.
I have battoned my Machax on a camp trip. I had forgotten my hatchet.
But the wood I had was dried out planer ends from a mill.
I knew it would split easily. I wouldn't have done it if I knew that I was really going to have to smash on it.
Well...guess what happened? Some of the blade coating came off.
That's right, using my blade as a splitting wedge caused some of the coating to wear off. I expected it would.
The coating is provided to help protect the blade. As a knife owner I feel it is my responsibility to protect the blade as well.
Battoning is hard on a blade. It will wear on the life of a blade.
Stabbing things will also dull the tip of a knife.
If you beat on your knife - you will have a knife that looks like it's been beat on. These are facts.

I'm going for a week long camping trip starting tomorrow.
I'll be taking all of my Becker knives with me.

I suggest you locktite those nuts down, strip the coating, and give that BK-7 another go.
Beckers are as tough as you make them.
But at the end of the day it is a knife, a tool. It has a designed purpose.
If you're going to push the limits, keep your expectations realistic.
The BK-7 is an excellent knife and will give you years of service if properly cared for.
 
Hope you give the blade a chance.
Becker knives work for a living, if you give them a chance.

As for stabbing the knife into a tree. I don't ever put my blades in trees (especially live ones) that I don't intend to chop down.
Stabbing into a tree creates a wound and makes it much more susceptible to disease and bugs.

Stick around for a while, this is a great little community and is chalk full of knowledge and first hand experience of all kinds.
 
The old coating (flat, non-textured) was not very durable, hence the switch to the newer coatings. Since there are so many still in stock with the older coatings, the newer coating has not been applied to the main knives of the Becker lineup yet. As far as the handles, while it does suck that you had issues with loosening so early on, had you lost anything Kabar would have gladly shipped you replacement bits. I am unsure if this happens with other knives with such easily removable handles, but solutions have been mentioned here by others, although my personal method that works for me is nylon lock nuts. You want to replace the screws and nuts anyway as they will rust eventually. Stainless is the way to go.

The tip dulling I don't have a suggestion for. Maybe there was something in the bark, maybe there was a knot or something, or maybe the knife itself has a bad heat treat. It has happened, and it will happen again. I did learn recently that tree bark will carry dirt and sediment upwards along the bark somewhat, so there is a tiny chance that the bark had something pretty rough in it, but that is just a guess. Either way, Beckers are great knives, but that doesn't mean there aren't lemons, and that doesn't mean that everyone has to like them.

You may not get it, may not see the allure, but there are a ton of us that do. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. However, unless you came in here to just try and start something (which is silly), I am betting you wanted to find out more, and maybe give that knife another chance. This is a great community (even though some of us can come across as a tad abrasive, really, most of us aren't, we are just very defensive of our choices) and if you stick around you are almost guaranteed to learn something and maybe even see that knife in a different light. We live for pics, so pics of this knife would be awesome, and if you have any questions feel free to ask.



Very well said Derek. I would also like to welcome you to the forum. When I first got my BK-2 I went outside and immediately started chopping with it. Shortly after I also had the same problems with the screws loosening. I just tightened them down and they were good to go. As far as the blade dulling, may I suggest you maybe think about throwing a more obtuse angle on it? Perhaps the angle was a little too acute coming from the factory and just couldn't quite stand up. Personally I have put a convex edge on some of mine and love it. Very durable.


Hope it works out for you and keep us updated on what you think of it.
 
"Interesting ... since this was "your first fixed blade knife" Guess it must have been all those Hinderer 18's you've been using before
Welcome to the Forum ... Dude"

Not exactly sure what your getting at here.

Of this, I have no dought

I have never owned any other fixed blade before but I have used many and I am smart enough to know its not a good idea to lay your knife on the ground in a campsite especially when there are dogs and other people around.

Hope this clears things up for you.;)

CRYSTAL :D

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Sorry you took this the wrong way. I wasn't trying to offend you. I was simply explaining what I did. :rolleyes:
 
Guys, He may have a legit issue, here, lets not kick him in the teeth. Connorr93, if you post some pics it would go a long way toward helping us figure out how to help you.
If there is a legit problem with the knife, you will find that NOBODY has better customer service.
If its something else then just some explanation of how to remedy or avoid the problems going forward might resolve it.

Welcome aboard
 
I took my first fixed blade out last week the ESEE-4 and it worked great the edge took a beating with the battoning still very sharp and I mean sharp. The coating started to wear out more like a flat black and on top it lost the coating I knew it will happen but not as fast as it did I know it might be out of topic put if any one is looking into an ESEE and a Becker then this might help.
 
I have a BK7. I LOVE it. Yup, it is a good idea to go to the hardware store & buy a few of that size allen wrench/key & keep it with you, just in case. Or locktight them as others have said. The BK7 is a FINE knife. If you legitimately have an issue, then call KaBar & ask for a new one & send them back the old one. Great customer service also, as others have stated. Honestly, i own a boatload of Beckers & there is not a bad one in the bunch.
 
Guys, He may have a legit issue, here, lets not kick him in the teeth. Connorr93, if you post some pics it would go a long way toward helping us figure out how to help you.
If there is a legit problem with the knife, you will find that NOBODY has better customer service.
If its something else then just some explanation of how to remedy or avoid the problems going forward might resolve it.

Welcome aboard

Very well put Silverthorn.
Looking back at my post it seems like it may have come off as condicending.
That was not my intention Connerr and I apologize if it was taken that way.
Silverthorn is right about the customer service. I've seen it in action and it's one of the reasons I continue to buy Becker knives.
But is the coating wear a warranty issue or a result of use?

I hope you give the knife another shot.
It seems that since your scales loosened up on your very first day camping that it put a sour taste in your mouth from the start.
Understandable.
As far as the coating not living up to your expectations, well, I still hold firm on my thoughts on battoning from my previous post.
Plus Beckers look better with the coating stripped anyway my man!
Believe me, what you've got there is waaayyyy better than a $15 knife from Big 5.
Post some pics of it.
If there is a warranty issue I'd bet you'll be taken care of.
Stck around, there is a lot of 411 floating around this forum!
 
Not exactly sure what your getting at here. I have never owned any other fixed blade before but I have used many and I am smart enough to know its not a good idea to lay your knife on the ground in a campsite especially when there are dogs and other people around. Hope this clears things up for you.

I believe we use a sheath for this. :) Just sayin.
 
Basically in conclusion I don't see what the big hype is about these knives and I wont be trusting one to get me through a camping trip again any time soon.

I think you're an exception, and I hope you'll sharpen that 7, tighten the scales, and give it another shot.

Batoning will wear any coating off. I've batoned with Beckers, Busses, Rangers, etc. They all lose their coating with batoning. Lots of friction involved.
The handles don't always come locked down as tightly as they could be. A quick check and a few turns of an Allen wrench will fix things. Also, the Loctite suggestion above is good. Just make sure it's the right Loctite. Clear fingernail polish will work too.
 
Well I must say that seeing all the positive feedback about the bk7 is encouraging. I have tightened the screws, stripped the blade and sharpened. I definitely will give the knife another chance. My initial impressions of the knife were poor but I may have just had bad luck.
 
The only bad luck would have been in the stabbing. Maybe you hit something.
The other stuff was just par for the course. I'm glad you're giving it a second chance.
 
I guess no matter how good something is soneone will never like it. Glad your giving it a second chance though.
 
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