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Well last year two buddies of mine got caught selling knives on school property... not the smartest thing to do, especially since columbine... This kid figured he could make money by buying knives off the internet and charging a fee for getting them. Then he'd make the transfer of $ and knife in the restroom where there are no cameras. Anyway, another one of my freinds figures to beat the other one at his own game so purchases knives from the first one and selling them for higher prices... Anyway, the second freind sold a knife to a kid who in the middle of class pulled it out and started playing with it (this is a butterfly knife just so you know). Well, the teacher sees the kid, calls security, who then run their asses up to class to haul him back down to the main office, where he rats on the first kid, who rats on the first kid, then on the second kid, then they rat on everyone they sold knives too. Fortuantely for my freinds they only got a 10 day suspension a slap on the wrist and had to appaer in court to find out if they would be expelled or not. But what gets me is that no one who was told on got into any trouble at all :confused: I mean they participated in an illegal activity also so wouldnt they get in trouble for it? Anyway, the moral to this story is DONT BRING WEAPONS TO SCHOOL! All i have to say about this whole affair is that if your going to sell knives to people, don't do it at school!!!
 
Lost In Shuffle said:
But what gets me is that no one who was told on got into any trouble at all :confused: I mean they participated in an illegal activity also so wouldnt they get in trouble for it?
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The sellers were the problem. Without them, none of the others would have had those knives in school, at least until they got them home. I think the administration made the right decision, not to go after everyone in a knee-jerk response. They concentrated on the ones who were most responsible. Lets see if everyone else, involved or not, gets the idea.
 
That's why in Malaysia DRUG DEALERS get the death penalty. Drug addicts don't get as harsh a punishment. Without the dealer there'll be no buyer.

Anyway, why'd they have to sell it at school?

Can't they like come early and trade outside the school or wait till they finished school?

Playgrounds are great places to do these sort of illegal activity.
 
Wow. In my old school, pocketknives were bought/sold/traded pretty openly. Of course it was 6,000 years ago when the alphabet only went up to "M" and we still thought fire was a pretty nifty new thing.
That being said, anybody who "ratted out" anybody else was usually in line for a "tune up". Those folks were then considered "untouchables".
And yes, with the increased post-Columbine scrutiny, peddling knives on campus, during school hours was not a bright idea.
 
Very stupid move for all of them. I finished HS just four years ago, and caried a SAK with me all the time. Sure it was against the rules and it could have caused some big problems, but I was smart about it. Taking a bali out in the middle of class and flipping it is just asking for trouble. Also selling in the school isn't all that bright, there are so many other times and places it could be done without trouble.

I also must agree that ratting out the guy that sold you the knife is a real nasty move to make. Its easy enough to just say that it was bought over the internet or in some store or whatever.
 
Moving to Blade Discussion Forum.
 
ratting out the guy was pretty douche.

flipping a bali in math class is downright stupid.
 
What Boneheads. . .I wonder how much $ they made? These kids have a real future selling frost cutlery on the home shopping network :D
 
While I agree this kind of thing shouldn't be done at school..... I also must say this.

Not all kids, but most kids, shouldn't be carrying a knife larger than a SAK until they are about 23-24 years old.

I'm over 30 and no matter how much I thought I was responsible and good, there were still some times where a knife in my pocket would have been a bad bad thing. Something just happens after you're out of high school and you have a job and what not, that makes you more responsible.

Now, while there are some kids that could carry a knife and never have problems at age 16, they are the small minority.

Boys in school with knives will cause trouble or at least take them out of their pocket when trouble comes 90% of the time.

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I am in grade 9 and at my high school their are people who sell knives in thew washroom as well. But their all cheap ass stuff you find in tourist stores and models that they sale in stores run by people whos's only words of English are, "You want!" :D

Myself, I would rather get a quality peice in a legal way. Good post.
 
Fisher of Men said:
While I agree this kind of thing shouldn't be done at school..... I also must say this.

Not all kids, but most kids, shouldn't be carrying a knife larger than a SAK until they are about 23-24 years old.

I'm over 30 and no matter how much I thought I was responsible and good, there were still some times where a knife in my pocket would have been a bad bad thing. Something just happens after you're out of high school and you have a job and what not, that makes you more responsible.

Now, while there are some kids that could carry a knife and never have problems at age 16, they are the small minority.

Boys in school with knives will cause trouble or at least take them out of their pocket when trouble comes 90% of the time.

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You are completely right and it is a shame those a$$holes with knives give teenagers with legaly owned and properly used knives a bad name. :mad:
 
Fisher of Men said:
Boys in school with knives will cause trouble or at least take them out of their pocket when trouble comes 90% of the time.
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Boys in school with knives will cause trouble if they know they're expected to cause trouble. We grew up with knives from the time we were old enough to go outside to play without Mommy hovering over us. Knives were for mumblypeg, whittling, making dioramas for school, and sharpening pencils.

As the twig is bent, the tree shall grow.
 
Fisher of Men said:
Not all kids, but most kids, shouldn't be carrying a knife larger than a SAK until they are about 23-24 years old.
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I got my Buck 110 when I was 6 :p.

But, I do agree with you. Most kids just aren't mature enough to carry a knife. And some of those who seem mature instantly turn into "hey look at me, I've got a knife, aren't I cool" when given a knife. Let kids have them, but let them face what they get when they take one to school.

I graduated high school in 1999, and until near the end of my senior year, I carried my 110. It was ok to have it. It wasn't cool or anything, it was just ok. I kept it in a sheath on my belt. The only times it made an appearance was when it was appropriate. Columbine changed all of that, and maybe for the better. I never had trouble with my knife, and everyone (teachers, admin, etc.) knew that I wasn't going to do anything. I guarded it pretty closely.

Columbine came and a friend of mine was arrested the next day for trying to be cool and do the same thing. He called in a bomb threat and had a loaded 9mm in his car. The 110 stayed at home from that point on.
 
Peter La said:
You are completely right and it is a shame those a$$holes with knives give teenagers with legaly owned and properly used knives a bad name. :mad:
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You're very right. But don't expect any of that to change when you get older. Those anal orifices just get older too and still cause problems.

I'm a violinist and like everything else I own, I like to take care of my violin problems before taking it to a luthier. We had a concert in late September 2001 and as it always happens before a concert something has to go wrong. In this case my bridge collapsed and one of the feet broke. I was living in a dorm at the time and didn't have all of my violin making knives and tools, but I had a bridge blank. Try as I may, I couldn't cut a bridge with my Ka-Bar. So I went to Wal Mart and bought the absolute best thing for making violin bridges, a Stanley box cutter (big hefty steel frame). Remember what happened in September 2001? Remember how that gave box cutters a bad name? Three different people in Wal Mart looked at my driver's lincense before letting me buy the damn box cutter (I was 20 at the time). Just to be a dick, after they finally let me buy it I turned to the friend I was with and said "let's go hijack some planes now," loud enough so they could all hear me.

There will always be someone to give something a bad name. Those of use who carry and use knives every day will always have to deal with the few that use them for the wrong things (robbery, rape, murder, prying, etc.); and will give us a bad name too.
 
My school has a buncha "ghetto" kids carrying. Does that mean, I should to? of course not. Just keep em out of school and play with them when you go home
 
Lost In Shuffle said:
But what gets me is that no one who was told on got into any trouble at all :confused: I mean they participated in an illegal activity also so wouldnt they get in trouble for it? Anyway, the moral to this story is DONT BRING WEAPONS TO SCHOOL! All i have to say about this whole affair is that if your going to sell knives to people, don't do it at school!!!
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They should not get in trouble for it. Ask yourself, would Thomas Jefferson bring criminal charges against a kid for selling a knife to another kid? Would he charge a kid for carrying a knife? The only problem I see here is commerce (anything, not just knives) on school property could possibly be wrong. Other than that, the school and lawmakers are paranoid jerks. There is nothing wrong with carrying knives.
 
Benjamin Liu said:
They should not get in trouble for it. Ask yourself, would Thomas Jefferson bring criminal charges against a kid for selling a knife to another kid? Would he charge a kid for carrying a knife? The only problem I see here is commerce (anything, not just knives) on school property could possibly be wrong. Other than that, the school and lawmakers are paranoid jerks. There is nothing wrong with carrying knives.
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yes there is. there is a problem with carrying knives in school because only 1% of the kids consider it a tool and the other 99% see it as a weapon and when provoked will use it as such so that they don't lose face among their peers.
 
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