Not super impressed by Emerson Knives

Your grasp of the English language has improved dramatically in the last two days. Oh wait....your entire post is a copy and paste from another forum. You did not make the original post 2 years ago on the other forum. Arrivederci

Ok, that makes sense. After reading his post in the Survive! knives thread, I was wondering how he all of a sudden put together something comprehensible here.
 
Number 1 hard use knife in the WORLD! That means Emerson's should be the toughest folder on earth. Very laughable, with those thin liner locks. They are far from the toughest made.

The liners on Emerson knives are far from thin. Please tell us in your humble opinion what knife is the #1 hard use knife in the world.
 
The liners on Emerson knives are far from thin. Please tell us in your humble opinion what knife is the #1 hard use knife in the world.

Could have fooled me, they look about the same as my CRKT's liner lock, which is thin and has lock rock just from flipping it. I don't know which knife is the #1 hard use knife in the world, as far as holding up to "hard use" but IMO (and many others) it ain't Emerson's liner locks. But, if you like them find them great then enjoy buying what you like. To me the liner locks remind me of where Benchmade was years ago.

Here's an Emerson off Google image, looks pretty thin to me.

EmersonKarambit02Lockup.jpg
 
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I've noticed the most vocal complaints about Emerson knives occur here on BFC. Coincidentally this is the same place with rabid KAI fans. Spurious correlation? Anyways, I digress.

You either love or hate Emerson. I hated them for a long time. I started out with a Benchmade kick, KAI phase, then Spyderco and then Emerson. All of the knives I own are Emerson (excluding a couple of customs). You couldn't pay me to touch KAI or Benchmade anymore. Despise both companies, especially the (infamous) KAI rep.

I love Spyderco and Emerson. Emerson knives dominate my pocket and quite frankly I'm more upset that it took me so long to get into them. I don't buy the knives because of the military association. I buy them because they are working knives.

I guess I'm not a rabid enough fan of any brand to understand why someone could actually despise a knife company. That's a pretty strong emotion to have. I'd be seriously interested in learning why this is so, for you. It seems like it would be an interesting psychological exercise. Perhaps I am unaware of some morally bankrupt business practices or something.
 
What I am saying is that for me, this brand is known for a lot of things that I'd like to associate myself with. When I'm carrying it I really am a better listener. I really remember the virtues of that Black Shamrock. For real.

I don't own an Emerson and have no dog in this fight. Actually, the 40ish Nutnfancy vid where they interviewed Emerson, he came off as a pretty nice and genuine guy...

But are you saying that carrying an Emerson knife has made you a better listener? When you carry this knife, you're more likely to actually listen to people? I do not understand this statement, help me out brother.
 
From years of reading threads just like this on various hobby boards that I frequent, from guns, knives, photography, bikes, and general outdoors, here is my conclusion.

For some reason, people are just not satisfied unless there is a "best, a "winner", and if someone says it's anyone other than our favorite pet brand, we'll argue blindly until they're assimilated or ran off, in which we claim victory.

It's why Al Gore invented the internet, embrace it.


Sent via the #1 Hard Use Tablet in the World - iPad.
 
From years of reading threads just like this on various hobby boards that I frequent, from guns, knives, photography, bikes, and general outdoors, here is my conclusion.

For some reason, people are just not satisfied unless there is a "best, a "winner", and if someone says it's anyone other than our favorite pet brand, we'll argue blindly until they're assimilated or ran off, in which we claim victory.

It's why Al Gore invented the internet, embrace it.


Sent via the #1 Hard Use Tablet in the World - iPad.

Because if you don't like what I like, I feel like you think I'm stupid for liking it . And I can't stand that, no sir, I simply cannot. Like how you are using an iPad rather than a Google Nexus. Fee on you!

(not directed at anyone's attitude here, just having fun. ;) )
 
I love the ergonomics of Emerson knives--all the ones I've had felt wonderful in a standard as well as a reverse grip which I think is a nice attention to detail.

I also like many of their blade shapes/designs and every one I've had came sharp as hell right out of the box. If I look very, very closely are the scales and liners sometimes all within .001" of each other? Maybe not but I care not for details like that. I haven't had any off center or gritty blades either and after a quick break in I've always found the lock to engage right where you want it to.
 
Because if you don't like what I like, I feel like you think I'm stupid for liking it . And I can't stand that, no sir, I simply cannot. Like how you are using an iPad rather than a Google Nexus. Fee on you!

(not directed at anyone's attitude here, just having fun. ;) )

Well it clearly means your stupid, and establishes a proper pecking order that strokes my ego. So in conclusion, my knives and my tablet, like all my choices, are superior. :D

I think if everyone agreed the internet would implode anyway, so we're good.


And you read my ipad humor perfectly. Well played. :thumbup:


And to keep this on topic, my experience with Emerson knives is similar to that of Falar and I agree with his comments regarding form and function. It's why I bought a CQC-8 in the first place, and why I'll most likely buy more Emerson's down the road.
 
From years of reading threads just like this on various hobby boards that I frequent, from guns, knives, photography, bikes, and general outdoors, here is my conclusion.

For some reason, people are just not satisfied unless there is a "best, a "winner", and if someone says it's anyone other than our favorite pet brand, we'll argue blindly until they're assimilated or ran off, in which we claim victory.

It's why Al Gore invented the internet, embrace it.


Sent via the #1 Hard Use Tablet in the World - iPad.

People attach their ego to their possessions. They made the DECISION to buy whatever it is they are defending. How dare you question THEIR decision.

I think it's pathetic that people become so emotionally invested in material. Possessed by their possessions.
 
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I always assumed the reason Emerson knifes were pricey, is because all the materials down to the screws, are made in the USA.

I personally buy USA made steels and handle materials etc whenever possible. Some woods are only from overseas.
I can tell you that its maybe $10-25.00 more per knife tops! Our labor costs are much more than the material costs.
 
I guess I'm not a rabid enough fan of any brand to understand why someone could actually despise a knife company. That's a pretty strong emotion to have. I'd be seriously interested in learning why this is so, for you. It seems like it would be an interesting psychological exercise. Perhaps I am unaware of some morally bankrupt business practices or something.

Benchmade has bullied their way around the industry, suing as they see fit and employs illegals.

I don't like KAI due to their rep (no names but he's an abrasive individual). He attacks members on here and then gives away knives to smooth things over. Plus a good portion of the KAI fans have ruined the brand for me, I won't associate with people like that, but that's my decision.

If you want to support them, be my guest. I'll stick with small American businesses, thanks.
 
People attach their ego to there possessions. They made the DECISION to buy whatever it is they are defending. How dare you question THEIR decision.

I think it's pathetic that people become so emotionally invested in material. Possessed by their possessions.

Bingo.

THINGS become an identity, and when someone's world revolves around themselves, their "stuff" and the decision to buy it are an extension of themselves, hence everything becomes personal.

So many people are defined by their job or income, their house, and cars seem to be a BIG one. Knives are just a small accessory, but it gets heated up just the same.
 
If you want to support them, be my guest. I'll stick with small American businesses, thanks.

Thanks for the permission. ;)

I don't support businesses based on the nation in which they are founded, but based on what product they produce and whether it's up to my standards. If you want to support only the small American business because it is a small American business.... be my guest. ;)
 
Lmao. Dang gum it. I'm not the best, u R.

Holy. Crap. An opinion has actually been reasonably changed on an internet forum. I remember some time ago you and I were talking about breaking the internet. I think it just happened. ;)

Also, your post above about things and identity is probably the best in the thread thus far. Thanks for it. ;)
 
I don't own an Emerson and have no dog in this fight. Actually, the 40ish Nutnfancy vid where they interviewed Emerson, he came off as a pretty nice and genuine guy...

But are you saying that carrying an Emerson knife has made you a better listener? When you carry this knife, you're more likely to actually listen to people? I do not understand this statement, help me out brother.

It's like tying a string on your finger to remember to buy milk when you're out. Except it's the heft of the knife that reminds me to be a better listener. People on average don't really make an effort to listen or they only hear what they want to hear. That's just being human. It gives me pause and makes me consider things more closely.
 
It's like tying a string on your finger to remember to buy milk when you're out. Except it's the heft of the knife that reminds me to be a better listener. People on average don't really make an effort to listen or they only hear what they want to hear. That's just being human. It gives me pause and makes me consider things more closely.

Alright man, thanks for clarifying. If it helps you, s'all good in my book.
 
I simply buy what I like and what works. If a specific brand fills a need then I buy it. If I feel that something is not quite up to my standards then I won't buy it. I like Emerson, Kershaw, ZT, Spyderco, and a pile of other brands.

My most carried and used Emerson knife is a old CQC7 from 2004. It's served me well through the years and when the lock finally wore out on it, I sent it in and get it back in a week with a new locking side. No blade play, no wobble, no lock slip, just a solid knife as it was when I bought it 10 years ago. Recently, the 15 which I bought new from a forum member here has been about the most perfect and solid knife I own. I have carried and use that knife for just about everything. Digging through drywall, cutting all sorts of wire and cable in a pinch, prying out nails and deburring EMT, etc. I love it and became one of my favorite knives the day I got it. If the knives sucked, I wouldn't have bought a dozen or so of them.

In the end, buy whatever you like and enjoy using. Realize that Emerson is not just a knife, but an entire brand from knives to jewelry to clothing, to sunglasses, to training seminars and other trinkets. The man built a pretty darn good business from just knives alone. Anyone that can do that has my respect, and he is a hell of a businessman. Do whatever works for you.
 
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