Now we're talking...

I had seen those, but wonder about the weight. If the thing is shootable at that weight, I would call it good, but if it is too light... IMO, there is a point at which there is no point, due to size, weight, practicality, etc., and I wonder which side of the line this one is on.

When you get it, put 1" dots up at various ranges, and see how far out you can hit 2/3. You might do something similiarly with 4" and paper plates. Personally, if you can't hit a paper plate at 50yds with it, or a 1" dot at 30', I doubt I would take it if it was 8oz. Even that wouldn't be that hot accuracy wise, but might be acceptable for a lightweight survival rifle.
 
Maybe its just me but, doesn't that remind you of the custom built piece in "The Day of the Jackal" novel (not the crappy film with Bruce Willis!)
 
with the fishing capability, it might just be the perfect light wieght back packing
shtf gun. it's small and light enough to put just about any where.
cant wait for a review.
 
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Not to take this thread too far off course, but does anybody know if the stock on the Marlin Papoose is solid, or hollow?

I mean obviously the pakrifle has it all over the Marlin in terms of being lighter. The Pakrifle is 15.5 ozs according to the specs at the website, while the Papoose weighs in at a whopping 3lbs. and 4 ozs.
However I was thinking that if you look at the Papoose, where is that 3-1/4 lbs. exactly? if my memory serves, the stock is made of fibreglass, and if the stock is solid, that's probably where the bulk of the guns weight is.

So now we come back to the earlier point of how the major manufacturers don't tend to think outside the box unless forced to do it.

If Marlin were to update the stock with a newer, lighter polymer, and hollow the stock out, allowing for assorted survival items to be stored in side of it (as opposed to the AR7 which houses the barrel and action), they could probably cut the weight substantially, while providing 7-round, semi-auto capability.

If they could shave 3/4 to 1-1/4lbs off of the weight and get it down to between 2 to 2-1/2lbs., they could probably make a killing.


But like the man said, they would probably have no interest in doing so.
 
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And of course threads are always better with pictures:

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Im going to have to read this review. Being a bit of a gun enthusist myself there are certain things that I see that some might call a flaw. but I can see where this rifle could definately fill a niche. It was designed with an intended purpose and while I would add some things to suit my tastes I can see what they had in mind. The lack of a trigger guard seems obvious to me as a design function and not a flaw. This rifle is not for walking around in the woods loaded, its to fill the dinner pot. Really think about it, if you were planning on defending yourself with this against animals big or small, 4 legged or 2, you would want a bigger caliber. Several companies have made steel lined plastic barrels and they are crap, but this is carbon fiber. This is not cheap and carbon fiber barrels have a history of rigidity and accuracy. Every CF barrel I have ever seen for the 10/22 cost more than the rifle.
 
I will look for your review with interest. Personally I like the Ruger single six and the fact it will shoot any .22 rimfire ammo from .22 CB to .22 mag. or shot shells. Plus it's a hell of a lot of fun.
 
I agree light packable and convenient can completely negate the whole shootable factor... there's a point where convenience and niche design take away from the performance of the rifle, and hanging a fishing attachment from the barrel and using lightweight hollow aluminum tubing for a stock sounds iffy at best. Personally I'd rather buy a 200 dollar High Standard .22 pistol and a 200 dollar Le Croix collapsing rod-pretty sure weight comes in around the same and it certainly takes up less volume. If you're looking for a 'breakdown' rifle, get an old savage or remington 510 series, it takes a penny to unscrew the one fastener holding the action in the stock and it remounts in about 2 seconds. plus you get a high quality matchgrade barrel and low profile sights adjustable out to 150 yards... and you won't find a more simple action, either.
 
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