Okay who is crazy here?

Worth EVERY PENNY.
It is all relative.You cannot buy another.
I am living in a house that cost less than $5000.00 new.I just had it appraised at $390,000.00. Someone will buy this house when I am ready to sell it.Real estate dudes call me all the time with buyers.
 
Slightly off topic here.

Those two Loveless knives posted have quite an interesting grind. Is there a name for it?
 
Let us not forget "The Living Legend" set the standard by witch lots of great blades are judged. Most makers suffer great hardships for very little money. Loveless himself has worked for every dollar his blades are worth. I often look at blades and marvel at the craftmenship for the dollar.
A blade is worth what it sells for.
A Loveless will always sell. Therefore a Loveless is worth every penny.
 
I was at the Blade show this year and got to handle that knife.

I walked up to the table and noticed the Loveless style blade. This is one of my favorie styles so I asked to handle it. I always ask just to be polite.

I did not notice it was a actaul Loveless until I saw the mark when I turned it over. The conversation went something like this

Him: Thank you for asking before picked it up.

Me: Well at this show you never know what you will pick up.

Him: Well that is an eighteen thousand dollar Loveless Big Bear.

Me: Don't worry I will not drop it

Him: I would appreciate that. Thats a $6,000 Moran drop point hunter below it.

I set the knife down and we talked for a few minutes. He told me a kid had knocked the Moran off the table. :eek:

The Loveless is a beatiful blade.

If I had the money I would buy it.

Zach
 
the price is relative...as an artifact it is priceless.....the man will not be around much longer...and the prices will rise. The MAIN reason his knives command such high prices is the Japanese collector market....He is a god there.....He and Jim take about 100 simple knives over every year and come home with an excess of 100K!!
When you can sell a drop point hunter for $1200 and UP.....selling something very rare is not a problem. Dave has an uncanny ability to find very unique and rare examples of the cutlers' art. :p
 
No insult felt, no, I have no idea who Mr. Loveless, is all I see is a desperately (in my opinion only) overpriced knife. I suppose if I knew the history, who the man was etc. etc. I might feel differently. I doubt it but you never know. Please understand that I kind of see things differently then some other people seem to. I see the object on its own merits only rather then as a collectible. I get flack in the sword community as well because I will not agree with the idea that a sword (any sword) is worth 100000 to 500000 which is what some Japanese blades go for. I would also never own an antique European sword. To me it is not functional so I don't want it. That is not to say I do not appreciate history, I do, but just not with my wallet. I am sure I am going to really tick some people off with this post but please understand that I am not trying to denigrate Mr. Loveless in anyway. I am sure that he is an excellent craftsmen and as has been said by everyone (including me) a knife is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. It is simply not worth it to me.
 
Dave Ellis is pretty much an expert when it comes to high doolar Loveless knives. I am pretty sure that this is the same one he showed me at Blade West. He searches all over the world to bring these knives back onto the market. If this is the same piece, he found it in Italy.

Point being, if Dave is offering it at $19K than you can be sure that it is worth it, if not even a little more.

BTW- I was told that he has circulated some twenty odd Loveless high dollar knives this year. So the demand is high.
 
It is an outrage! It does not even come with a sheath :) Well I suppose you could send it with USPS to someone and have him make a concealex sheath? :)
 
Originally posted by Triton
I have no idea who Mr. Loveless, is
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I find that statement to be amazing, for someone to be posting on this forum for over a year. I'll admit before 1998 I didn't know any custom makers, or that there was even custom knives. I have always carried a knife I just never paid any attention to their names. When I found out there were others that liked knives was when I saw my first Knife Magazine, that's when I started to learn who's who. Loveless was one of the first names I came across. I think it would be hard to find any knife magazine that doesn't have Bob Loveless's name mentioned in it. Even if the name didn't catch your attention right away his designs should have. They have to be some of the most often copied designs in the knife world. I don't own a Loveless and probably never will, but I have three knives that come from Loveless designs.

Maybe Triton's interest isn't knives, but more about swords, where my knowledge is lacking, due to a lack of interest. Still I think there are some names in that should be known by everyone that claims to be a Knifenut.
 
LOL Triton!

You need to do some homework kid. Start reading Blade, KI, and KnifeWorld. Get one of Levine's books, Learn.

Come back when you can tell us more than 3 words about these men. First, put these names in chronological order, dead ones first, and tell us where they worked and what is noteable about the work of each. Ten additional points will be awarded for knowing what Damascus is, and 50 more knowledge points if you can explain why stainless steel is and is not stainless. Bonus points for knowing whether a tanto is a sword or a knife. This is an essay test. Good luck. Your time is unlimited :)

1. Loveless

2. Moran

3. Price

4. Scagel

5. Schively

Para, amused such a shameless, open display of knowing knuthin bout knifes ;)
 
As you say PhilL I have been posting here for over a year. However I am very rarely on this forum at all. I spend most of my time over in the political arena or the sword forum. Small knives do not hold all that much interest for me in general. Typically I carry a Buck Crosslock and a Swiss Army knife and that is about it. If I asked you who Peter Johnnson or Michael Bell were would you know the names? At a guess I would say probably not even though they are two of the best makers of custom swords alive today. It is all a matter of general interest. :) I simply noticed this knife because of the price tag.
 
Hey Para,

If I wasted all that time on little knives I wouldn't remember my Oakeshott typologies or my Japanese sword parts. :)

I'll read up about those knife guys as soon as you can tell me what a type XI sword looks like when side by side with a type XVIIIb, what a type 9 cross looks like and which country the type Z pommel was used in. :)

As for the tanto, it's a knife!!
 
Oh absolutely, Don absolutely rocks. Have you ever seen that differentially tempered leaf blade that he made? It was gorgeous. I hear he also makes knives...:) My proceeding post was supposed be good natured ribbing, I hope it came across that way? (Note to self add more smilies.)
 
As for the tanto thing, it seems that if you are Really an ancient Japanese practicioner of Bushido, then the tanto must be seen as a sword. If you are a modern american, you call the tanto a knife and favor strange foreign angular grinds.

As for Type, whose type exactly are you looking for? BTW, I know what you mean about having no room for all the Japanese sword part names. My brain is full (of it) too. I need to remove a whole lot of crap from data storage before I can download those files ;)
 
Well, no one can call me ancient yet! Although I am getting older... Honestly my interests have more run to European blades of late. You can actually afford even the high end of those swords. Today for even a modern katana made by the cheapest high end maker you are looking at 2000-5000 dollars which I just cannot justify to my wife! If you want one made in Japan you are looking at 10000 dollars low end and it goes up from there. I think those prices are nuts too just for the record! The thing with the sword vs knife thing is that I believe that it is defined by usage. To me a tanto is too short to use as a sword (have you ever tried to do a noto with one?) so it is a knife. Just my two cents others will surely disagree.

I forgot to mention, I was talking about Oakeshott's typology, I have not managed to learn Peterson's yet.
 
Ah... Japanese craftmanship. This thread reminds me of my girlfriend's woes as a potter. She does some superb work, but since she is just starting out her pieces cannot command very high prices yet. However, she and I were at an opening recently where the artist mentioned he had apprenticed in Japan with a potter for about a year -- a potter whose rice bowls bring $10,000 each. Why? Well, they're nice and all, but I'll bet a lot of that has to do with the fact that he's a 17th generation potter from a very famous family. People like buying history and notoriety. People like buying something that everyone else wants, but is unique so only they can have it. And, (now this is where Loveless comes in) people like buying the best. So do I.

Now, if I only had the money to support my taste.

-Al-
 
That is a beautiful example of a very rare knife and yes it is worth what is being asked for it. Bob's knives are some of the most collectable out there and his early knives fetch very large amounts. This is a very early example in excellent condition and if I had the money it would be mine.

Most of Bob's older knives sell in the $4000.00 to $10,000.00 range, but some have attained prices much higher than the amount being asked for this one. Whether they are worth it has to be decided by the person looking to buy the knife. They are to me.
 
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