"Old Knives"

Very nice, Lloyd. I have a 633594 in strawberry bone from the 1950s . . . quite a bit different than your roughly 30 year older ones.
The jigging reminds me a lot of Case's.

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I know virtually nothing about Butler brand knives other than the G. Butler & Co Sheffield made ones have been manufactured since forever ago... I believe they had the oval logo like the one on your tang stamp. Based entirely on the look/construction of it I would guess around the turn of the century, pre WWI. You just didn't see that many fancy gentleman's knife post WWI... it has extra "jimping" on the liners, long pulls and nice manicure tool. The presence of the "England" on the tang stamp also points to it being made no earlier than ~1895 (+/-). Also looks like carbon steel blades, likely would have been stainless if it were made post WWI. I could be totally wrong of course but just my gut feeling... maybe one of our Sheffield experts will have more info. If you can post some more pictures of the tang stamps it would be helpful.

Great knife! I like the old gentleman's knives and that stag is great :):thumbsup:

Thanks knowtracks, and always a treat to see one or more of your rare S&M knives.
Luger, two exceptionally nice NYK examples.
ed, nice old Butler Senator model. I agree with V.P. that it is an early 1900s model.

Lloyd - Those two NYK Knives!!! are simply stunning- beautiful examples of what that amazing Cutler Co could do- just absolute WOW factor there all day long! I just cannot decide which to choose - both have gorgeous Bone- those Blades and etches!!!:eek::eek:
Love them!

Herder- That Flylock- along with eismans- just something we don't see in this part of the World, and when I see examples like this- It makes it even more the shame!:(, :) :thumbsup:

Dave- I listen to a Podcaster who Bow hunts, and I don't think we appreciate just how hard that is- especially using the Traditional Recurve is meant to be very hard- so I tip my hat to you my friend! :thumbsup:

Ed- Butler produced a good Knife! That looks to be a nice one there!

Kev- I like that Old Fixed Blade- Great to find a add about that Knife as well!
Thanks so much for the info guys. Facinating the history these old survivors on this thread carry.
My own seems to have been mostly unused with the original grinds intact. There's a steep sided bevel and a almost a micro bevel on the other, like a chisel grind. Copied the angles and it's astoundingly sharp.



 
Thanks so much for the info guys. Facinating the history these old survivors on this thread carry.
My own seems to have been mostly unused with the original grinds intact. There's a steep sided bevel and a almost a micro bevel on the other, like a chisel grind. Copied the angles and it's astoundingly sharp.



If only the knife itself could tell us it's own history! I would love to hear of it's travels from Sheffield to your pocket ;):thumbsup:
 
Here are two Robeson PocketEze 633594 premium stockmen. I have had the bottom pictured one for a few years but recently acquired the top one. The primary differences in the two are three fold: 1. The shield on the top one is the less seen double bomb shield, 2. The double bomb shield has a more scratch or claw bone type jigging while the bottom one is what I would call divot bone jigging (reminiscent of the bone jigging seen on NYKC knives after the pick bone style and before the peach seed jigging), 3. And finally the tang stamp third line on the top one is U.S.A. and the bottom one Rochester. Both are large stockman models and measure 3 & 7/8 inches closed. I think the U.S.A. tanged stamped version is the earlier one.

Thanks for looking :)

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EZE to slip into the pocket! Here's mine...

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View attachment 1471445 View attachment 1471446 View attachment 1471447 View attachment 1471448 For your viewing pleasure. NYKC Hammer Brand Swell Center Split Back in Pearl. This is a beautiful example.
Love the splitback design, it's a real touch of class. I can only imagine the difficulty of making that.
veitsi_poika, love the Pocketeze two blade, beautiful ageing. As you have said, the story these knives could tell in their journeys to us! Reminds me of Anton Chirgurh and the coin that takes 22 years to get here.
As I'm on the other side of the pond these brands are strange and desirable to me:)

This is my pocket pal today.

This cutler seems to be consistent in build (at least the three examples I have) and the steel is well hardened too. The thin grinds slice so clean and nice.
 
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I hate to interrupt the parade of amazing gems with one of my weird relics. But I'm gonna. :D

I've had pretty good luck putting down low bids on listings that say "for repair or parts". Sometimes all the knife needs is a good cleaning and a little epoxy on the cracks. So I took a chance on this Jack Knife that appeared to be old ivory.
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Unfortunately, it's in worse shape than I'd hoped. It really needs to be disassembled and re-pinned.
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I may give it a try over the holiday break, since I don't think I can make it any worse.
Here's a picture of the worn tang stamp. Does anyone have any guesses? I think it's possible that it says: American Knife Co. Plymouth, which would make it a very old knife: 1849-1875. Maybe I shouldn't just tear it up for parts...o_O
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I hate to interrupt the parade of amazing gems with one of my weird relics. But I'm gonna. :D

I've had pretty good luck putting down low bids on listings that say "for repair or parts". Sometimes all the knife needs is a good cleaning and a little epoxy on the cracks. So I took a chance on this Jack Knife that appeared to be old ivory.
WwRP5XA.jpg

lVyiyUV.jpg

Unfortunately, it's in worse shape than I'd hoped. It really needs to be disassembled and re-pinned.
agZsd3C.jpg

I may give it a try over the holiday break, since I don't think I can make it any worse.
Here's a picture of the worn tang stamp. Does anyone have any guesses? I think it's possible that it says: American Knife Co. Plymouth, which would make it a very old knife: 1849-1875. Maybe I shouldn't just tear it up for parts...o_O
mRoQZWf.jpg
Would love to see how you go about refurbing that, disassembly with a good outcome for walk and talk is beyond my current skill set.
Certainly looks old, the serif font (in my unexperienced opinion) might indicate the age you mention?
 
I hate to interrupt the parade of amazing gems with one of my weird relics. But I'm gonna. :D

I've had pretty good luck putting down low bids on listings that say "for repair or parts". Sometimes all the knife needs is a good cleaning and a little epoxy on the cracks. So I took a chance on this Jack Knife that appeared to be old ivory.
WwRP5XA.jpg

lVyiyUV.jpg

Unfortunately, it's in worse shape than I'd hoped. It really needs to be disassembled and re-pinned.
agZsd3C.jpg

I may give it a try over the holiday break, since I don't think I can make it any worse.
Here's a picture of the worn tang stamp. Does anyone have any guesses? I think it's possible that it says: American Knife Co. Plymouth, which would make it a very old knife: 1849-1875. Maybe I shouldn't just tear it up for parts...o_O
mRoQZWf.jpg
I can certainly see American Knife and Plymouth on there r8shell... I think we can make it official ;):thumbsup: Cool find!
 
Would love to see how you go about refurbing that, disassembly with a good outcome for walk and talk is beyond my current skill set.
Certainly looks old, the serif font (in my unexperienced opinion) might indicate the age you mention?
It's somewhat beyond my skill set, too. :oops: I tried squeezing the bolsters together, but it all springs back apart, so I can't just peen it tight. I'd like to think I could just drive out the pivot pin and replace it, without having to change the center pin that holds the spring in place. I'm probably wrong about that as a possibility.
The fact that it's ivory, has a pinned shield and a well executed swedge on the blade told me that it was pretty old and of good quality. Enough for me to roll the dice, but it may just have to sit on the "cool old relic" shelf.

I can certainly see American Knife and Plymouth on there r8shell... I think we can make it official ;):thumbsup: Cool find!
Thanks!
 
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