"Old Knives"

waynorth waynorth Charlie, here is a photo you posted, quite some time ago, comparing the blades on the W.D. Herbert to your Hudson Bay harness jack. A member on AAPK posted that he believed that W.D. Herbert stamped knives were made by Boker. There is also a W.D. Herbert for sale, on AAPK, which the seller claims came off a salesman sample board from the Heinrich Boker Baumswerk factory in Germany.

 
Nice Work Danno!

Oh Boy! What a find Charlie, I love it when we find stuff all over again! 😍

Charlie when you posted that comparison, I bought that old W.D.Herbert Wreck and had it sent to Mr. Paul Hilborn - who holds my knives- and Paul kindly sent it on to you.

That W.D. Herbert had the same Tang Stamp / Font etc. from memory, and was a German made Knife- didn't someone come in then and say that Boker made the W.D. Herbert's ?

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/lets-see-those-magnificent-hjs.1092542/page-107#post-22399066?

Here some resluts in searching...

www.worthpoint.com

WD HERBERT KRIEGSMARINE GERMANY NAVY WW2 POCKET KNIFE | #138968013

Up for auction is a geniune ww2 Kriegsmarine(germany navy) sailors pocket knife.Made by W.D. Herbert,es with original to the knife,rope and belt clip which is also marked Germany.Wooden handles with b
www.worthpoint.com www.worthpoint.com

A W.D Herbert's showing the symbol of Wings with a Crown ...

A closer look...
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Charlie N in AAPK ...

W.D.HERBERT - All About Pocket Knives

Anyone know anything about this brand? Goins lists it, but provides no information. Charlie Noyes
www.allaboutpocketknives.com www.allaboutpocketknives.com

This is the W.D.Herbert Charlie N ( photo shown in his link posted) and Dan referred to..


In AAPK, W.D.Herbert mentioned again, click on the Link below, go to post #12 - there are numbered manufacturers/ brands - go down to number 18 within Post #12. Boker mentioned again.

Is Boker doing a disservice to it's customers?

Before I bought my first Boker I did a lot of research so I could determine which models were actually made in Germany as opposed to which models were made in China or made with parts that came from China. Very confusing and somewhat misleading. I now know how to tell the difference but certain...
www.bladeforums.com www.bladeforums.com

Not a lot out there is there :(
 
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danno50 said:
waynorth waynorth Charlie, here is a photo you posted, quite some time ago, comparing the blades on the W.D. Herbert to your Hudson Bay harness jack. A member on AAPK posted that he believed that W.D. Herbert stamped knives were made by Boker. There is also a W.D. Herbert for sale, on AAPK, which the seller claims came off a salesman sample board from the Heinrich Boker Baumswerk factory in Germany.

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Campbellclanman said:
That W.D. Herbert had the same Tang Stamp / Font etc. from memory, and was a German made Knife- didn't someone come in then and say that Boker made the W.D. Herbert's ?
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Thanks Dan and Duncan for reminding my aging brain that I already asked similar questions before!! And thanks everyone for reminding me of the clues and answers!!!
Duh - I plead "senior moment"!!! 😲 :rolleyes::(🤷‍♂️
 
In a box of knives that I save for parts, I found another W.D.Herbert!!!
I can't begin to remember how it got there!!! I will "squander" another picture to show you all!!Junk wd herbert.jpg
It's still a snappy, serviceable old knife, but not very beautiful!!
I seem to have a few like this, but a "Junky Knife" thread doesn't sound that interesting to me!!! Anyone???
 
waynorth said:
The Walden Knife Co, N.Y. - founded as a co-op in 1870, it was taken over, as a knife company in 1874!! By 1911 they were the biggest knife company in the world!!!
Taken over by E.C.Simmonds Hardware at that time (1911).
In 1922 they merged with Winchester Small Arms, who eventually closed the plant in late 1923, and moved the equipment to New Haven, Connecticut! They sold the buildings to Schrade Cutlery Co!!!!View attachment 2610531The teardrop Jack is one of the older pocket cutlery patterns! This nice, old Jack has survived well for decades on "light duty" I'd say!! I was sorting Harness Jacks, and this guy was hiding in there!! (I'm so organized!!!) :rolleyes:
A nice survivor of an old U.S. Company!!
(I usually post more pic/views, but I'm scared of running out of room!!)
(doh!! the scratch on the handle, is on the scanner)
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This knife has to be over 100 years old!! 😲 😁
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Wow What a beauty !
 
waynorth said:
Please send me your mailing address, Rachel!! (via PM)!!

I am embarrassed!! I feel like I have insulted a friend!! Inadvertently, I assure you!!
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Haha! Poor old Toynbee will need some oil and honing therapy, but he will just fine here at R's HOWOK*
Thank you!

*(r8shell's Home for Old and Worn Out Knives)
 
waynorth said:
In a box of knives that I save for parts, I found another W.D.Herbert!!!
I can't begin to remember how it got there!!! I will "squander" another picture to show you all!!View attachment 2611077
It's still a snappy, serviceable old knife, but not very beautiful!!
I seem to have a few like this, but a "Junky Knife" thread doesn't sound that interesting to me!!! Anyone???
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Wow - Charlie - your find of another W.D Herbert is amazing!
That one definitely if of the same age where the examples we are finding out there on the internet seem to be of later manufacture - so if Boker made the later knives- that’s not to say they made your wonderful older examples.
 
Campbellclanman said:
Wow - Charlie - your find of another W.D Herbert is amazing!
That one definitely if of the same age where the examples we are finding out there on the internet seem to be of later manufacture - so if Boker made the later knives- that’s not to say they made your wonderful older examples.
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There was a time when I would drag anything home that resembled a harness jack!!
I have about a dozen odd brands; relics some of them with strange names, and many with Empire punches!!
Maybe more info will surface about these W.D.Herbert/Bokers!!
 
And Charlie..... that's exactly where I was going late last night - trying to find my comparison shots of the Empire Punches - I couldn't until this morning in an older post in "OLD KNIVES", so we did a comparisons of the Empire Punches, both the Alvord, and the Empire Punch.
Your Punch on both of the W.D Herbert's have that same type of Punch.

Comparisons shown in this past post when we were discussing the Challenge Harness Jack Knives and the Townley, these knives had both of the Empire Punches on them. Using the Empire Punch - and they were all the same, in this post here ........

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/old-knives.527126/page-893#post-19240086

If you have a look at the two Knives on the Right - that have that Empire Punch, They seem to be identical.

The Punch on your W.D.Herbert is also a dead ringer as the Punch on your beautiful Van Camp Jigged Bone Harness Jack.

Charlie, do you have any shots of the "Shoulders" of the Punches Pile side? say on the Van Camp and the W.D Herbert? be interesting to see if they have the same "Shoulder" style- if so we could pretty much lay money on it that they have the Empire Punch - what are your thoughts Charlie?

Hoping that the shoulders of the Herberts Harness Jack Knives - pile side of the punch look like this..

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Should I try to straighten the brass liner on this Keen Kutter 2613 Crown Jack 1909-25 or leave it be? I think if I find a shim same thickness as the secondary liner width and put the whole thing lightly in my hobby vise with rubber jaws I could move it closer to original position by sliding a flat-head screwdriver through. Any advice will be taken under consideration.
https://imgur.com/miefV5T
https://imgur.com/zkamTrc
 
Nice looking vintage knife.

Yes, I would fix it.
Knife held in vice on pivot end to prevent creation of a wiggly wobbly blade or blades. Use the screwdriver. Because of spring-back you'll need to unbend VERY slightly past straight/flat to have the liner straight when finished.
You can go a little past the bend as needed to help reduce springback.
Work from the shallow end of the bend towards the pivot.

I believe a spacer and squeezing with the vice only will leave the liner slightly bowed.

Are the covers bone or plastic?
 
Bone, the pile side bone is already damaged. Thanks for the input.
afishhunter said:
Nice looking vintage knife.

Yes, I would fix it.
Knife held in vice on pivot end to prevent creation of a wiggly wobbly blade or blades. Use the screwdriver. Because of spring-back you'll need to unbend VERY slightly past straight/flat to have the liner straight when finished.
You can go a little past the bend as needed to help reduce springback.
Work from the shallow end of the bend towards the pivot.

I believe a spacer and squeezing with the vice only will leave the liner slightly bowed.

Are the covers bone or plastic?
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