"Old Knives"

Here is another 3-spring Eureka Cattle knife (from Tony's herd) but with an EC SIMMONS KEEN KUTTER stamp.

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I really like the elegant simplicity of the barehead Jack. Here are 3 from different manufacturers. 3 3/8" L to R - Remington R23, Keen Kutter and Wallkill River Works (NYK)
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Great trio, and a nice pair of comparison pictures, Paul!
Pure Remington bone, a Schradey looking KK, and NYK bone on the Walkill of course. Archetypes!
 
That trio is awesome, but is the nail nick fracture caused by corrosion or did someone actually manage to break it off? if its a break that is something I would not expect (from a basic engineering standpoint you wouldn't expect enough forces exerted).
 
Robert.B said:
That trio is awesome, but is the nail nick fracture caused by corrosion or did someone actually manage to break it off? if its a break that is something I would not expect (from a basic engineering standpoint you wouldn't expect enough forces exerted).
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Robert- I'm not sure how or when it happened but the pen blade on that knife (KeenKutter) is so thin it is flexible. It has a healthy swedge on the back side to ease access to the long pull on the main. It looks like very little material was left around the nail nick after the swedge was cut. When I have some time I will try and shoot some photos to illustrate. It's possible that it is a factory 2nd the blades are full and show no sign of an edge bevel. Just don't know for sure.
 
1923/24 Remington RS3333 Official Scout knife with one piece can opener and acorn shield proclaiming "Be Prepaired" -

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I have an old knife that has the exact same break,or wear.
i had never seen before till now.
maybe there is something to that?
i'll look it up and get back as to brand,etc.
that is,if anyone is interested??
love these old knives...i am still on page 100 or so.
i get updates as to new ones,but can't seem to get
caught up with the actual post.i like to take my time
and enjoy these old ones.
jd

Robert.B said:
That trio is awesome, but is the nail nick fracture caused by corrosion or did someone actually manage to break it off? if its a break that is something I would not expect (from a basic engineering standpoint you wouldn't expect enough forces exerted).
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" G.J.Neil maker, Oxford, early to mid 1800's, 4 " closed, nickel silver fittings and pins, steel die and cutters, faceted ivory frame. Many of these are found pretty badly broken, chipped or cracked.... many with the thin sides of the cutting box missing. This one somehow managed to survive all these years in pretty much new condition save for an old ink stain on the edge of the cutting box. The flush fit pen blade and the "nibber" on the reverse side sit on opposite sides of a lobster or sportsman type " V " spring. An ease is cut to provide nail access to the pen blade. These were kept on desks or pocket carried. To use it, one opens the die handle to its stop at 90 degrees, then inserts a quill into the die and presses it closed which cuts the quill to a perfect point and at the same time slices it down the center to draw ink. You then open the die, remove the quill and insert its tiny pointed tip, or" nib" into the " nibber " , the small cutter at the opposite end, and snip off the tip of the nib to your preferred width by pressing the spring loaded button down. The tiny nibber blade cuts against a brass plate, and another brass stop plate behind the cutter prevents the nib from being inserted too far. A relatively fool proof way to cut and shape a writing instrument out of a feather. Simple to use, but a very complicated and precision built tool. Along with a couple you have seen before for scale and color. One side of the ivory frame is simply butter yellow and grainless, the opposite side has some very nice grain, but it is very difficult to show with only a scanner. "

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jdracing said:
I have an old knife that has the exact same break,or wear.
i had never seen before till now.
maybe there is something to that?
i'll look it up and get back as to brand,etc.
that is,if anyone is interested??
love these old knives...i am still on page 100 or so.
i get updates as to new ones,but can't seem to get
caught up with the actual post.i like to take my time
and enjoy these old ones.
jd
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Well I guess from what was said about the swedges and the depth of the nick maybe it ended up like a sewing needle eye and broke over time...I use good quality needles for sewing leather but have managed to break the eye in ways I would never expect, which is supported if you have one as well with a similar fracture.

Looking at the closeup you can see there wasnt much material, I just didnt think enough force could be made to break it.
 
I know..but it's so obvious once you see it once. My friend (who I used to watch The Simpson's with constantly) took like 15 minutes to figure it out.
 
Paul M said:
I really like the elegant simplicity of the barehead Jack. Here are 3 from different manufacturers. 3 3/8" L to R - Remington R23, Keen Kutter and Wallkill River Works (NYK)
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Paul, as everyone who has seen these photos has said...stunning knives, the Wallkill knife I have never heard of, and when looking at that most beautiful knife...I cant see why I haven't heard of it yet!!!.what a remarkable knife.
 
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