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I'll leave these here, but you might also start a thread in the Bernard Levine Knife Collecting and Identification forum. To the pictures you already have, add one of the tang markings.
I picked this older Imperial(pre schrade) up for $10 the other day. The scales need some sanding, but it's in good shape. I believe this is a peanut?
Hi Riley, those old Imperials take a great edge. Unless my eyes are failing me ( they do it frequently )) I think the scales are paper celluloid. Is that rust piled up on the scales? Looks to be a stamped in shield that is rusted, possibly due to celluloid off gassing. A better pic of that area would tell the tale. If it's off gassing it hasn't affected the blades yet and the paper scales can be pulled off to protect the knife and any others from getting "cell rot".
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Hello, Pipeman, there doesn't seem to be any rust on the knife, inside or out. The scales feel like plastic, I did take a picture of the area in question, and I believe they were painted celluloid scales, and the paint is peeling off now.
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Robin i think those are the Imperial 'shell' handles with the bolsters afixed with tabs. The 'shell' part is just a thin veneer that i think is not celluloid. If so handles are fine to leave as they are.
And, no, not a "Peanut" which is Case's name for a small (2 7/8") serpentine Jack. Yours is a Serpentine Jack but looks larger like maybe 3 1/4" ? Most likely a 1960's knife ? (give or take 10 years).
kj
And, no, not a "Peanut" which is Case's name for a small (2 7/8") serpentine Jack. Yours is a Serpentine Jack but looks larger like maybe 3 1/4" ? Most likely a 1960's knife ? (give or take 10 years).
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Ah, thank you! I'm new to the whole traditional patterns, but this one hasn't left my pocket since I got it. Other than the scales, it seems to be in really good shape for an older knife.
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Imperial used a rubberized scale material for a short time through the 60s-70s the material felt like a soft plastic, you could make a nail mark in it without much difficulty. Also because the coloring wasn't in the material it tended to wear off on the high points as evidenced on your knife. I had one similar I don't recall if I gave it away or if I still have it, I'll have to look.
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Jeff,
If the knife ( when you get it in your hands ) is good with no play and you like it then I guess price comes down to balance of price/pleasure you get from the knifwe - so it's worth whatever you decide.
Its a 40's era 4 line Camillus - I like the Mellow Colouring of the bone and the Blades have lots of life left in them - so a neat old user for sure.
If the knife ( when you get it in your hands ) is good with no play and you like it then I guess price comes down to balance of price/pleasure you get from the knifwe - so it's worth whatever you decide.
Its a 40's era 4 line Camillus - I like the Mellow Colouring of the bone and the Blades have lots of life left in them - so a neat old user for sure.
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Plan is to clean it up as much as possible and sharpen it. I figured it was worth checking to make sure it was not too valuable before messing with it.
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Does this knife look original?...And do blades look full?
Im thinking bout it....But just not sure if blade has been re-shaped?
That main blade just looks like it'll be way short in closed position...No
pics of knife in closed position and Im thinkin that is why?
Please comment your thoughts,
JD
Im thinking bout it....But just not sure if blade has been re-shaped?
That main blade just looks like it'll be way short in closed position...No
pics of knife in closed position and Im thinkin that is why?
Please comment your thoughts,
JD
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So YOU'RE the one who beat me!
Here are some photos from the auction:
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Sure is a lovely Camillus, and consider me super jealous that you got it (though I am glad I made you pay a little more
). Even with that crack on the pile side scale and the love that Father Time has given it, I think that Barlow would be a fitting addition to any collection. Especially mine... :grumpy:I picked up the worked French Laguiole (looks like a chunky toothpick to me :nonchalance
and a possible Cattaraugus Franken-Barlow from the same seller along with a nice 3-line wood TL-29 and a random fixed-blade, but I couldn't close out the order with this Camillus. :livid: :friendly_wink: I also have a 4-line Sword brand Camillus serpentine jack coming from the bay. I'll probably post pics of the latter two here, if I ever remember and find some free time. 
I salute you, sir!
So jprime's acquisition coupled with my constant desire for new Barlow threads/posts inspired me to whip up a quick ad hoc shoot of some of my older and more raggedy Barlows.
Unfortunately there are shadow issues in some of the photos but I think I got enough detail for some interesting photos of the senior citizens in my lineup.
Clockwise from bottom left in the first pic: 2-blade Keen Kutter with a clip point in sawcut bone, reportedly 1940-1960; 2-blade Remington (RB44?) with a clip in smooth bone, claimed to be from the 20s (block-print "REMINGTON UMC" tang stamp inside circle); 1-blade spearpoint M. Furness & Sons in sawcut bone, claimed to date to the mid-1800s; 1-blade spearpoint Wolstenholm I-XL from Sheffield in jigged bone, post-war but unclear beyond that; and a 2-blade I-XL with a sheepsfoot in sawcut bone for comparison, post-war and likely much newer.
I think I may have unwittingly put the knives in age order here.
The masters on each one snap like gators. Yes, even the Furness.
I haven't had much luck finding much out about the MF&S, but I absolutely love the bolsters and that deep, classic blade stamping (no etching here!). The body is just a tad shorter than most modern Barlows and it fits perfectly in the watch pocket of my favorite jeans. :thumbup:
This layout always makes me think "Flying Barlows" and I smile.
Isn't it about time for some of you slipjoint all-stars to put on a clinic about some old Barlow jacks? :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Unfortunately there are shadow issues in some of the photos but I think I got enough detail for some interesting photos of the senior citizens in my lineup.
Clockwise from bottom left in the first pic: 2-blade Keen Kutter with a clip point in sawcut bone, reportedly 1940-1960; 2-blade Remington (RB44?) with a clip in smooth bone, claimed to be from the 20s (block-print "REMINGTON UMC" tang stamp inside circle); 1-blade spearpoint M. Furness & Sons in sawcut bone, claimed to date to the mid-1800s; 1-blade spearpoint Wolstenholm I-XL from Sheffield in jigged bone, post-war but unclear beyond that; and a 2-blade I-XL with a sheepsfoot in sawcut bone for comparison, post-war and likely much newer.
I think I may have unwittingly put the knives in age order here.
The masters on each one snap like gators. Yes, even the Furness.
I haven't had much luck finding much out about the MF&S, but I absolutely love the bolsters and that deep, classic blade stamping (no etching here!). The body is just a tad shorter than most modern Barlows and it fits perfectly in the watch pocket of my favorite jeans. :thumbup:
This layout always makes me think "Flying Barlows" and I smile.
Isn't it about time for some of you slipjoint all-stars to put on a clinic about some old Barlow jacks? :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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JD, about that Cattaraugus, I don't think its right at all. Blade grind looks recent and the handles are used??
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So YOU'RE the one who beat me!
Sure is a lovely Camillus, and consider me super jealous that you got it (though I am glad I made you pay a little more
I picked up the worked French Laguiole (looks like a chunky toothpick to me :nonchalance
I salute you, sir!
Sorry about that - if I decide it's not for me, you will be the first to know!
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JD the Cat looks fishy. As Mike said main blade looks in recent grind and too thin and the long pull doesn't seem right. The pin is visible on the bolster usually it is a sign that somebody messed with knife. The tang stamp may looks like later addition but hard to see clearly from the photo. Also I suspect the shield not to be original to Cat. Too many red lights
Mike
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Sorry JD, as others have said, the Catt is all wrong. Koot has been saying to watch out for curved mark knives that look too good to be true. I have also noticed knives on the bay with curved marks that just don't look right. Most of them have had "as ground" blades like the master on your Catt.
Best regards
Robin
Best regards
Robin
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So in otherwards,Im getting better at spotting things out of ordinary?...I'll take that as a compliment......
I saw the knife and it looked to good to be bad,so I passed,not before getting couple shots of the strange
new/old look it had......Another thing really got me was the length of main blade.....It looks to be an inch
short of filling out the valley,or liners where it rest......
No comments on the Paratroopers knife at all?.....I did get that one,but Im not sure as to the date in which
it may been manufactured as being Old enuff for this thread?...Thanks all,JD
No worries, Jeff. It's part of the excitement of the hunt. With any luck another Camillus, or some other Barlow I've had my eye on, will come around and I'll get a gem of a price on it. In the meanwhile, if you do keep it, make sure you give it plenty of oil and TLC. :thumbup:
Gotta love the feel of an old bone Barlow in the hand...
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