"Old Knives"

[wlfryjr]

Here's a nice one. I probably paid a bit more than it was worth condition-wise. I wish it was in a little better shape. It has had some exposure to moisture, but it's pretty much all there, and very snappy. My one and only Wade & Butcher.

Nice knives all.

Glen that blade on the W&B has the shape I believe usually indicating an older knife. All my oldest farmers jacks had a spey that closely resembles that design. A lot of times you don't see it because of the wear.

 

[glennbad]

Thanks for that insight, Lyle!

 

[wlfryjr]

Jeff, Mike, always love finding knives with their original packaging, very nice.

Glenn, the Wade&Butcher, WOW, just beautiful.

Picked up a couple, a CX Lockwood Brothers farmers jack, seller said it was rehandled with old India Stag,

Nice knives all. Great lineup Duncan.

John,I believe these were assembled from parts more recently ,as the Lockwood Bros mark was purchased by Joseph Elliot in 1927. This pattern was pretty much obsolete around WWII (But I've seen several Schrades that are later) and had it's heyday up to and surrounding WWI.

Most all Lockwood Bros. I've seen have been handled in some type of modern stag and usually not dyed and preserved with potassium permanganate. I believe some Saynors are in the same boat,as these ships set sail a long time ago, and I've had a couple Saynor's in that some stag life raft.


I gave one to a friend and I think sold one to Robin,but I believe I have three of these four left, selling another I purchased.

 

[paulhilborn]

A true beauty Glenn, the covers are outstanding the blade has a little bit of resemblance to the spey on the Farmers Jack?

Nice knives all.

Glen that blade on the W&B has the shape I believe usually indicating an older knife. All my oldest farmers jacks had a spey that closely resembles that design. A lot of times you don't see it because of the wear.

That's the resemblance I saw as well Lyle. I didn't know for certain but it's the closest blade I thought it resembled.

 

[RobbW]

Here's a nice one. I probably paid a bit more than it was worth condition-wise. I wish it was in a little better shape. It has had some exposure to moisture, but it's pretty much all there, and very snappy. My one and only Wade & Butcher.

I really enjoy seeing those old stovepipe kicks. Looks functional and useful. :thumbup:

Most all Lockwood Bros. I've seen have been handled in some type of modern stag and usually not dyed and preserved with potassium permanganate. I believe some Saynors are in the same boat,as these ships set sail a long time ago, and I've had a couple Saynor's in that some stag life raft.


I gave one to a friend and I think sold one to Robin,but I believe I have three of these four left, selling another I purchased.

Lyle, your collection is exquisite!! Very nice specimens.

 

[Jack Black]

I'd be grateful for any thoughts on this old knife I picked up in an antique shop recently. It was in a small rented cabinet, along with several other folders, all of which were incorrectly labelled. This one was labelled as an 'Old British Army Knife', which it obviously isn't. I assume the reason for this claim is the small arrow on the mark side scale, which is similar in appearance to the 'Broad Arrow'/'Crow's Foot' found on British army and navy clasp knives. I commonly see this mark forged on old tools, and sometimes knives, but there are of course, other reasons an arrow mark might have been stamped or carved here, other than an attempt at forgery. However, the letters, could be a crude attempt to imitate a 'WD' (War Department) stamp. Or they might be the initials 'd M'! The marks don't appear to have made recently, quite the opposite. Here it is exactly as I bought it. It's 4 5/16" long, with a 3 1/8" blade (measured from the front of the tang).

 

[screened porch]

In one pic I see three longitudinal grooves in the bolster, which reminds me of a knife that was said to have been similarly marked so that its observant Jewish owner would know what kind of foods to use it on.
Some of the stamping looks Cyrillic.
The stamped fish might agree with the food-category theory.

 

[Jack Black]

Wouldn't that be fascinating? I remember that thread very well SP, it was very interesting. Just to clarify though, the bolster is actually threaded on both sides. From what I recall, the knives under discussion in that other thread had three marks scratched in the wood of the scale (?). For the record, I do live in an area with a high Jewish population.

 

[screened porch]

oops, you're right. They look brighter in the close-up.
I don't know what that vaguely 3-shaped squiggle is either, but it doesn't look like any script I would even try to fake knowing anything about.

 

[Jack Black]

Sorry, my kitchen is a terrible place to take photos I'm hoping someone will pass by to whom the script means something

 

[T. Erdelyi]

Both of these come from somewhere between the 40s & 50s but ya gotta love the little Camillus advertising premium, "CAMILLUS HAS THE EDGE" never saw one before this one and I've never seen one since.

 

[mike Berkovitch]

An interesting knife Jack. Letters remind me Cyrillic or Greek. The overall shape , including the threaded bolsters, reminds me vaguely of a German knife produced by Kneissler , though I don't think this is the case in your knife. Looking forward to see where it goes

Mike

 

[Jack Black]

Thank you Mike, I'll be interested to find out whatever I can about it :thumbup:

Interesting knives Ted, I have a couple of similiar patterns by John Watts of Sheffield :thumbup:

 

[screened porch]

Sorry, Jack, I didn't mean to disparage your photography; it just looks like a three with long tresses blowing in the wind. It reminds me of an astrological symbol, but it would be backwards.
Pi and rho could be Cyrillic or Greek, but that b with an upper shelf instead of an upper loop looks Cyrillic to me. (Which, with a few bucks, will get you a cup of coffee.)

 

[Jack Black]

Sorry, Jack, I didn't mean to disparage your photography; it just looks like a three with long tresses blowing in the wind. It reminds me of an astrological symbol, but it would be backwards.
Pi and rho could be Cyrillic or Greek, but that b with an upper shelf instead of an upper loop looks Cyrillic to me. (Which, with a few bucks, will get you a cup of coffee.)

Not at all my friend :thumbup: Yes, to me too, a shame all the letters aren't there :thumbup:

 

[r8shell]

While you folks have your eyes sharpened, I picked up a couple of pearl pen knives today. The top one is marked Providence Cutlery, but I cant read the bottom one. Something CutleryCo Germany?
Any guesses?

 

[paulhilborn]

Rachael, Ted and Jack very nice and interesting knives:thumbup:

This old Primble (Boker Made) red Sawcut Barlow arrived today. I had a Clip with Pen before but had searched a bit for Spear with Pen. This one arrived today

 

[waynorth]

That is a purty Barlow, Paul!!

 

[Gevonovich]

This old Primble (Boker Made) red Sawcut Barlow arrived today. I had a Clip with Pen before but had searched a bit for Spear with Pen. This one arrived today

Super nice bone on that one, Paul!! Wow! I felt your missing your other one and got it out to give it some love. It's well loved my friend

 

[paulhilborn]

Super nice bone on that one, Paul!! Wow! I felt your missing your other one and got it out to give it some love. It's well loved my friend

Ah, yes! Thanks fantastic Gev!!! No better home than with you my friend oh and I believe no better home than with Rob as well

Enjoy your weekend Gev:thumbup: