"Old Knives"

Old Engineer said:
Every one that I have seen had been used very hard and had wooden handles. The actual scribe portion of the Scribe Blades were probably in the area of .75 " or longer . The Rake of the scribes all look about the same . They are indeed a very work specific knife too. I doubt that anyone would want to carry one unless he had a real use for that scribe blade , unless they had a good leather carrying device. Another thought is about the downturn of the blade just before it gets to the scribe . Your"s looks like what I remember about the other ones.
The Stag on this rivals the Stag on Abbeydale I think , and that is going some my friend.
Edited : Almost forgot the most obvious difference Jack !! I don't think I have ever seen one with Scribe Well not being outside of the liners before .
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Many thanks for the information Harry, and for the compliment. I am very pleased with how neatly the scribe blade folds into the frame. The way the springs, and the whole frame, tapers, also makes the knife considerably more compact. Makes you wonder why more knives weren't made like this. Perhaps this was the gaffers (bosses) version! :D The stag covers are a bonus :) :thumbup:

paulhilborn said:
What a wonderful purpose built knife Jack!!! I love task made knives. Like others mentioned a neat way for the scribe to lay on/in the well. I really like how the Key design incorporates itself into the nail Nick. Great stage covers and just a fantastic find. Thanks for showing that one Jack:thumbup::cool:
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Thank you very much Paul, I also like the deep stampings, and it is nice to have the range of Butler stamps on one knife. They also help considerably in dating it of course. The 'ART' mark dates from 1861, the Key mark from 1882. Since the firm became 'George Butler & co Ltd' in 1883, the 'George Butler & Co' stamp appears to be pre-date that (though the old stamp could have been used subsequently) :thumbup:

blademan 13 said:
Wow, just some fabulous knives being posted over the last wee. Amazing actually! That timber scribe is really cool. Nothing beats a purpose built knife built with all the pride a cutler could muster. Love, love, love the stampings and wish we would see more of them done today.

I did just pick up this Imperial cattle knife. Nothing stellar but it had some nicely worn bone and decent blades. Cleaned it up a little, put on an edge and into the pocket.
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Thank you Jamie, that is a lovely old knife, it looks like it was someone's lifelong companion :) :thumbup:
 
I've been away from BF for a bit and you all have posted some great and interesting knives, to most of which my most intelligent response is simply "WOW!".

The pearl handled Terrier dogleg jack is very nice. Anecdotally, I think that is the most often encountered pattern, maybe because it was a gent's knife and they just didn't get used up.

I'm very much convinced that Terrier was an in-house brand of Robeson. They put reversed Robeson pattern numbers on them, they never did that for any contract knives. They were listed in Robeson's salesmen catalogs.

Irving S. Robeson, who pretty much took over after Millard F. died in 1903, was an avid sportsman. He was a competitive horseman. He was a scratch golfer and winner of multiple tournaments up and down the eastern seaboard.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least to discover some day that he also bred American Staffordshire Terriers.

I think some day, we need to bring all the Terriers posted to this forum under one thread.
 
Good to see you back Charlie :thumbup:

I came across this image in Smith's Key, showing a Rase Knife, which seems to be constructed in a similar way to my Butler, and also appears to be a relatively pocketable design. It's the only Rase Knife shown in the catalogue, maybe they were all like that once? :confused:

 
Another beauty Jack I love blade standings, some don't and I understand that. Nice full blades, great swedge on the main with long pull and great bone covers:cool::thumbup:
 
Oooh Jack! That is a great Knife AGAIN!!!! you must have done yet another good dead and are being rewarded. You dont see the two bladed Sheepsfoot knives around as much as the single Bladed models -and that one is just spectacular my friend!

Charles- Nice to see you posting again Sir- I was waiting for some information from you to come up about the Terrier.
 
That Rase knife is quite beautiful, and handy, Jack!!
Most Rase knives that I have seen are bulky and clumsy, and do not have a main knife blade. They probably do their job well, but they are not conducive to regular carry - unlike that great Stag knife you have found!

These are utilitarian knives - nothin' fancy!
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Campbellclanman said:
Oooh Jack! That is a great Knife AGAIN!!!! you must have done yet another good dead and are being rewarded. You dont see the two bladed Sheepsfoot knives around as much as the single Bladed models -and that one is just spectacular my friend!
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Thanks pal, I think I'm going to be seeing a lot of THIS until the end of the month! :D ;) :thumbup:

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waynorth said:
That Rase knife is quite beautiful, and handy, Jack!!
Most Rase knives that I have seen are bulky and clumsy, and do not have a main knife blade. They probably do their job well, but they are not conducive to regular carry - unlike that great Stag knife you have found!
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Thanks Charlie, I thought you'd find it of interest :) Thank you for posting those classic examples my friend :thumbup:
 
Jack, another very nice knife, you have had a great week. Love that sheepsfoot pen combination, not that easy to find, here is a Cattaraugus.

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Augie said:
Jack, another very nice knife, you have had a great week. Love that sheepsfoot pen combination, not that easy to find, here is a Cattaraugus.

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Thank you my friend, that's a beautiful knife, and in great condition :thumbup:
 
Scales looks awesome on this Catt, also blades combination is very nice.

Now, where on earth do you get these knives from so frequently? I need to go there too

Mike
 
Nice Catt, Augie. Congrats on a great find. I love those old wood covered working knives with the thick, radiused slabs. Very comfy to use and much more at home in the old, loose trousers of yore than what is worn today:rolleyes:
 
CNoyes said:
I've been away from BF for a bit and you all have posted some great and interesting knives, to most of which my most intelligent response is simply "WOW!".

The pearl handled Terrier dogleg jack is very nice. Anecdotally, I think that is the most often encountered pattern, maybe because it was a gent's knife and they just didn't get used up.

I'm very much convinced that Terrier was an in-house brand of Robeson. They put reversed Robeson pattern numbers on them, they never did that for any contract knives. They were listed in Robeson's salesmen catalogs.

Irving S. Robeson, who pretty much took over after Millard F. died in 1903, was an avid sportsman. He was a competitive horseman. He was a scratch golfer and winner of multiple tournaments up and down the eastern seaboard.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least to discover some day that he also bred American Staffordshire Terriers.

I think some day, we need to bring all the Terriers posted to this forum under one thread.
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Thanks so much, Charlie, for posting the history on the Terrier. I knew it was under the Robeson umbrella, but that's all.

Many fantastic knives posted here recently. That's a beautiful Cattaragus, Augie.
 
Very nice Catt John nice full blades with great covers:thumbup:

This one arrived today, another Pruner...odd I know:) this one is a little different in my eyes as it measures 3 5/8 versus 4". I love this smaller frame, I never knew it was even available or ever made until I came across this one.

It has BEAUTIFUL green bone covers with no flaws that I can find. I put the point back on the blade as this one is going to be carried. The blade is battled scared but that appeals to me in regards to the history that this Pruner has seen in its lifetime.

1920-1940 tang stamp, blade is almost centered and has a tiny bit of play. So small that the tiny play is a non issue to me.

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Alongside a 1940-1964 CASE red bone Pruner...

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Great green bone Paul, the smaller frame make it more pocketable. Congrats.
How about pruners group shot, might be very interesting.

Mike
 
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