"Old Knives"

Thank you my friend, it actually is a very nicely built Knife!

Jack - to answer your question on a check inside the Liners for initials my friend, I cleaned them up tonight- I did look but didnt see anything - but after you asked the question, I got out my trusty wee Bamboo pick that I use on the Knives, a rag and some Mineral oil - BANG!!! I saw something ...well I can tell you I grabbed my Jewelers Loupe pretty quickly and a torch- my heart sank- only a little....... i found these numbers exactly like this Jack..... 21 - 36 I wonder what this means?
 
Campbellclanman said:
Jack - to answer your question on a check inside the Liners for initials my friend, I cleaned them up tonight- I did look but didnt see anything - but after you asked the question, I got out my trusty wee Bamboo pick that I use on the Knives, a rag and some Mineral oil - BANG!!! I saw something ...well I can tell you I grabbed my Jewelers Loupe pretty quickly and a torch- my heart sank- only a little....... i found these numbers exactly like this Jack..... 21 - 36 I wonder what this means?
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Nice work Duncan :) I have also had Ibberson's knives like that. Stan recently told me that the marking system was originally introduced by management, and that the first number would have been a number assigned to a cutler, with the second number being the year of production. The system of assigning numbers to workmen was very common, to mark parts, tools, etc, and also things like time cards where these applied. My grandfather was '6' at his firm. I forget what number the fitter I worked with when I first started work had assigned to him, but he certainly had one, which was stamped on his tools, etc. The same with my father. In my experience, most workmen also stamped their initials on their tools, and it could be that at Ibberson's the cutlers preferred to use their initials later too, and also found it easier in keeping track of their work and others, since who would bother to memorise everyone's works number? :thumbsup:
 
Jack Black said:
Nice work Duncan :) I have also had Ibberson's knives like that. Stan recently told me that the marking system was originally introduced by management, and that the first number would have been a number assigned to a cutler, with the second number being the year of production. The system of assigning numbers to workmen was very common, to mark parts, tools, etc, and also things like time cards where these applied. My grandfather was '6' at his firm. I forget what number the fitter I worked with when I first started work had assigned to him, but he certainly had one, which was stamped on his tools, etc. The same with my father. In my experience, most workmen also stamped their initials on their tools, and it could be that at Ibberson's the cutlers preferred to use their initials later too, and also found it easier in keeping track of their work and others, since who would bother to memorise everyone's works number? :thumbsup:
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Keep that ancient lore coming, Jack.
 
Great old Robeson, Paul, and I love the "Carpenter Choice" blade etch.

Nice old English examples, Jack. I've always thought that ring turn models were such a clever idea.

Great examples, Luger and Augie. Ebony and nickel silver look so good together.

Beautiful Ibberson, Cambellclanman. That knife has everything to make it a stunning classic example.
Sorry to hear about your other knife problem and I've certainly had my share over the years.

Great comparison shot of the match striker punch blades, waynorth.

Beautiful group of NYKco models, chuko.

Nice ones, Samon.
 
Here's a trio of old barlows - each one of these is hovering around 100 years old.

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I'm still pretty new to vintage knife collecting so every now and then I still get surprised by a knife I find. This Winchester pruner is one of those.
I did not know there was such a thing as a small pruner so you can imagine the look on my face when I got it out of the box, it was a pleasant surprise as I like the unusual.
I'll let the pictures do the talking, I posted pics comparing it to a normal size Cattaraugus and a large Ulster capped end.

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Thank you guys for the kind comments on the Ibberson- much appreciated.

Augie .... Stunning - simply Stunning.
I too have owned smaller Pruners/ a Camillus Sword Brand and a couple of others- Paul would be able to to comment on them more so - Mr Pruner as he is.
 
Great pruner, John!! You don't see Winchesters regularly; nice find!
 
I was just thinking on how "Stately" that Pruner looks with that lovey wee Federal Shield - Cocobolo seems to be grabbing my attention a lot lately- it's such a deep handsome wood that makes any knife look very "Rich" if I am explaining myself ok here.
 
Really nice Winchester pruner Augie :thumbsup: ..... cool to see one with a shield!!

Here's one of my favorite Waterville knives - a 3 &1/2" Swell-Center pen with grooved balloon bolsters... no doubt was one fancy pocket carry at one time :) ..


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Thanks for looking!
 
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Duncan, I have to agree with you Cocobolo does acquire quite a rich look with age, beautiful wood.

LongBlade, that is one classy looking knife, gorgeous.
 
John, that's a great small pruner:cool: I have a small CASE (1920-1939) and Remington pruner in that size. Both were surprises like your Winchester:thumbsup:

Lee, wonderful Waterville Tux and I agree with Charlie, still fancy:thumbsup:
 
Thanks all for the comments - much appreciated :thumbsup: ...

Nice catalog cut too supratentorial :D ... For me I always associated the tuxedo patterns as those small and slim swell-center pens usually about 2 & 3/4" to maybe 3 " in closed length (and I have a few nice examples to post eventually)... just the way I understand it the tuxedo is a subcategory of swell-center pens made for ladies or gentleman on the smaller side and no doubt slimmer in the frame than this knife - I can be wrong but that was the way I always interpreted the pattern based on some references but perhaps it is open to interpretation :) .... this Waterville at 3 & 1/2" is about as big as some jacks and much bigger than the classic tuxedos at least in my experience but again I can be wrong ;)
 
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