"Old Knives"

John A. Larsen said:
T. Erdelyi, What is the brand of the center knife? I ask as I have a "Seneca" Cutlery Co. Utica N.Y." knife that looks exactly the same. Thanks. John
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I have a similar looking knife too John made by Kent City which I believe is an early-to-mid 1900's brand used by Kastor and Camillus... mine has a different shield and a little different pattern on the handles but the same style knife with the cap bolsters.

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- Kevin
 
Duncan and Lostball, I know you meant Ulster, not Utica:) - thanks for the kudos!!

Thanks Gev, Lyle, r8shell and herder!! Glad you all like that little guy!!
 
herder said:
Wonderful Crucible examples from Lostball, Gevonovich, and Knowtracks. If I didn't know better, I'd think these knives were common. :)
Great curved Ulster, waynorth.
Glad to see you back here Paul, and look forward to your picture.
wlfryjr, I love pretty much every handle material, but stag usually takes the cake for me.

Here is an old A. Field easy open model which was a contract knife from Schrade Cut. Co. (and has the notably nice Schrade peach seed bone handles).
A. Fields has roots dating back to the mid 1800s and were gone around WWII. They never produced any of their own knives, but carried several brands.
They were best known for being the sole United States agents for Joseph Rodgers during the first half of the 20th century.

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Just a wonderful photograph of a sweet knife, Herder !! Great info too :thumbsup:
 
Oooops Charlie- at times my mind wanders ( at times - by that I mean 95 % of the time ) yes my friend I did mean of course Ulster :oops: ).
Wonderful Schrade examples Charlie-, I dont think you would be able to get much better!
 
Those are some great knives Charlie!

Trying to catch up, I do have a Crucible to add to the mix, decent scout knife with great bone. I did a little research on Crucible awhile back and if I remember right there was a debate on if they made their own knives or had someone else make them for them, I tend to lean towards them making their own as the bone used on their knives appears to be a little different than anyone else's at the time.
One of those companies that was in business for such a short period of time that we will probably never know the correct story.

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Charlie
The peach seed on the top one is as good as it gets. As Will would say, it's as if Michelangelo chiseled it himself:)

Augie
What a tremendous specimen :eek: Thank you so much Sir !!!!!!!!!

We must keep working on the mystery of the Crucible Boys ;):) I too think they made their own knives.

The Lawton Cutlery Co. is a real looker indeed and another compelling story :)
 
chuko said:
NYK fruit sampler.
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Now that is one I have not seen. What a beauty !! Thanks for the look !

veitsi_poika said:
And an Ulster cattle in peachseed :cool:

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Kevin, that one is just like I like em...loved and pocket worn elegance indeed

veitsi_poika said:
And round it out with a nice old Utica Cutlery Co. barehead jack :cool::thumbsup:

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Something about an old curved stamped Utica that makes my heart beat faster. Love it Sir
 
Nice crucible Scout Augie, and a cool Lawton! Is that a punch on the Lawton?
And how long is that knife please??
 
waynorth said:
Nice crucible Scout Augie, and a cool Lawton! Is that a punch on the Lawton?
And how long is that knife please??
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Thanks Gev,Charlie. Charlie the Lawton is 3 1/2". I think the punch was originally a pen but someone made a pretty nice punch out of it.
 
Augie, you have my attention now my friend, that Crucible Scout is a beauty- some time could we see a photo of the other side of the Punch please Sir?

North Shore- Whew! my friend...that Stag is something else! Mason's Knives follow up couldn't get better!
Thank you Gentleman!
 
Gevonovich said:
Charlie
The peach seed on the top one is as good as it gets. As Will would say, it's as if Michelangelo chiseled it himself:)

Augie
What a tremendous specimen :eek: Thank you so much Sir !!!!!!!!!

We must keep working on the mystery of the Crucible Boys ;):) I too think they made their own knives.

The Lawton Cutlery Co. is a real looker indeed and another compelling story :)
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Gev, based on the little searching I did it sounds like the Crucible Knives were made for W.T. Grant stores which was originally a "nickel & dime" store in Lynn, Massachusetts. The store was founded in 1906 and went out of business in 1976. They became a fairly large department store chain competing with Kresge stores or ""K" Mart. Now as far as WHO made the Crucible knives I found this excerpt on the Boys Scout knives website showing a Crucible Scout:

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After looking through several pictures of the other major knife makers "scout" knives with the long nail pull and similar looking can opener, cap lifter and punch I found this Seneca Scout knife which looks very similar to the Crucible Scout above with the exception of the bail location and can opener tool:

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And I did find another Crucible with a similar can opener:

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The Seneca roots have a bit more information since they are known to be linked to Utica Cutlery who was known to be an avid provider of contract knives for hardware stores and other knife "manufacturer's". I don't think we would be surprised if the "quality" knife makers of Crucible Knife Co mentioned previously were in fact Utica cutlers. Just some food for thought :D

- Kevin

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