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"Old Knives"

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by VCM3, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. Cambertree

    Cambertree Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2014
    That Richards shell souvenir knife and the John Watts penknife you posted, Jack, put me in mind of these two, which were gifted to me by a generous bloke in Sheffield.;):)

    They were probably posted when they first found their way to your table, but I thought I might share them again.

    The images on the pile side of this Richards shell knife are labelled Blarney Castle, and Upper Lake, Killarney.
    The mark side pictorials are labelled Celtic Cross, and Nelsons Pillar, Dublin.
    The depiction of Nelson’s Pillar evidently dates this knife as pre-1966, as the Pillar was heavily damaged in that year by an Irish Republican cadre, and subsequently demolished by the Irish Army.

    Although I’m more of a jackknife person than a penknife one, this very neatly made, early stainless steel bladed piece, with ivory covers by John Watts is one of my treasured knives.
    (Shown with a fused lump of volcanic iron from the coast of Western Victoria. The lump will cling strongly to a magnet.)
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018
  2. Augie

    Augie Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 23, 2014
    Adding to the recent run of pruners is this Case XX, used but not abused.

    IMG_8569.jpg IMG_8571.jpg IMG_8574.jpg
  3. Jack Black

    Jack Black Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 2, 2005

    Nice to see those two again my friend :) I would have thought the Richards knife was from the 1950's. My reason for gifting you the Watts knife was that I expected we would pass by the old factory on your visit to Sheffield, which as it turns out, we didn't have time to do. Next time eh? ;) :thumbsup:
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  4. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    A classic Grail knife, Augie!!:eek: Beautiful Red Bone, good patina, brass bail. Wonderful pattern shape!!
    Killer knife!!:thumbsup:
    You must put a pic of it in the "RED" knife thread!!:)
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  5. veitsi_poika

    veitsi_poika Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 25, 2016
    Since the name came up, I have to jump at the chance to post these pics of my favorite Richards Sheffield knife that I posted in a different thread a few months ago...


    I have 5 Richards Sheffield knives and they are all very nicely made and have great snap, not sure what their reputation is amongst the "Old Knife" people but I like them. Seems they have the Imperial shell knife reputation so probably are what you pay for them hey?

    - Kevin
  6. veitsi_poika

    veitsi_poika Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 25, 2016
    Yes they are celluloid handles herder... it was difficult to get a good picture to show the pattern and colors but it's a mix of golds, browns, reds and greens; different for sure. Here is another pic that was a little brighter light:


    - Kevin
  7. Goetztalon


    Feb 8, 2016
    That green knife is pretty cool!
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  8. paulhilborn

    paulhilborn Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 22, 2006
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  9. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    Mason Knives - Two nice old and uncommon Barlow models.
    Jack - I love those pinched bolsters on that Christopher Johnson folder.
    Cambertree - Neat Richards and story behind it. Good looking John Watts folder also.
    Augie - Great older Case pruner with beautiful red bone handles.
    V. P. - Wild emerald Green handles on that Richards folder. Richards sure made a wide variety of interesting shell handled knives.
  10. veitsi_poika

    veitsi_poika Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 25, 2016
    I notice is a slight etch on your Newton knife Jack, I could make out "TRY KNIFE":


    So I did a quick Google search and found the same knife with the etch more clear:


    - Kevin
  11. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    Post # 14551 :)
  12. veitsi_poika

    veitsi_poika Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 25, 2016

    LoL... I saw that post but apparently never made the connection! o_O
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  13. Jack Black

    Jack Black Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 2, 2005
    That's a particularly nice one :) My dad worked at Richards when I was a kid. The knives were ubiquitous here at one time, sold in every newsagent, barbers shop, etc, and I still come across a lot of them. They were so inexpensive that they were more or less viewed as disposable, so often the ones I find are in very poor shape, sometimes they are as new though. The steel was generally OK until the 70's, obviously the construction leaves a lot to be desired :thumbsup:

    Few more :thumbsup:

    Richards 4-blade Scout Knife (Brown) 1.JPG

    Richards African Zebra Knife 1.JPG

    Richards Decimal Knife 1.JPG

    Richards Farthing Knife 1.JPG

    Richards Green-Blue Penknife 2.JPG

    Richards HOP 1-1.JPG

    Richards Jack 1-1.JPG

    Richards Keyring 3-blade Advertising Knife 1-1.JPG

    I've got a lot of these, I'll not post them all! :D :thumbsup:

    Like other cutlery manufacturers in Sheffield, Richards also made clasp knives for the British Army during WW2 :thumbsup:

    Richards 1944 Clasp Knife 1S.JPG

    Thanks Kevin (and Herder :) ), I should really have taken a separate photo of the blade :thumbsup:

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  14. leghog


    Aug 10, 2013
    What is a desk knife? And what's the peculiarities of its sheath. I've never heard of a desk knife.
  15. Peregrin

    Peregrin Traditional Forum Moderator Moderator Gold Member

    Sep 2, 2004
    @leghog , Case has sold some. I believe based on something Tony Bose made.
    Bottom knife in this pic. Made by Kerry Hampton.
    Obviously not old. I don't know if it was based on an old pattern or not .
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  16. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Desk knives are usually fixed blades. That's a beauty, Gary!!
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  17. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Back to Pruners for a bit, we often show our deluxe or exceptional beauties here. Today I scanned two groups of plain old, USA-made pruners!
    Top to bottom, 1st pic:
    Sword Brand (Camillus)
    3-line Camillus
    E.C.Simmonds KeenKutter
    Case XX USA
    second picture:
    Schrade Cut Co.
    Empire Winsted
    Ulster Dwight Divine
    Plain Pruner group 1.jpg Plain Pruner group 2.jpg
  18. SteveC


    Jul 13, 2017
    Jack seeing this pic reminded me that I have one just like it that was my Grandpa's, I remember that he used it to clean his pipe.

    Thanks for sparking the memory, I had forgotten that I had it :thumbsup:


  19. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    I can only imagine just how many of Richards knives you have my friend. I’m sure that group alone would cover the famous Jack Black Table.

    Charlie- Each and every one of those Pruners are simply fantastic.
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  20. Mike Robuck

    Mike Robuck Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    I agree with Duncan on the pruners. Most of them still have the factory tips on them, which usually get rounded off from sharpening.

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