"Old Knives"

waynorth said:
Nice! No end to the old knives you are coming up with Vince!! I hope!!!!!
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Thank You Charlie & thanks to all the contributors.The thread is a picture library.

Here's what we have this morning
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3 3/8" closed, nice bone. Never saw this type of bone on any other Challenge. Almost looks like Schrade bone.Vicious snap, even at the half stops

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Looks like that pen blade has been used a lot. What a great lookin Challenge jack!
 
Two very nice Challenge contributions here fellas.

Vince, the jigging on yours is interesting and not something I believe I've seen before. :thumbup:
 
sunnyd said:
Two very nice Challenge contributions here fellas.

Vince, the jigging on yours is interesting and not something I believe I've seen before. :thumbup:
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sunnyd & all,You'll probably like the jigged bone on this one,too :thumbup:

NYK Pen,with a manicure blade,notice the swedge on the file blae,too

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"3 3/8 " closed, deeply jigged bone feels even better in the hand than it looks. Dense, heavy little knife. Older knife with cutting tip on the manicure blade. On the older knives I have with these sharpened cutting tips on the maincure blades, they seem to be universally ground extremely thin regardless of the maker and are scalpel - like in their sharpness and cutting abilities."

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U tell me...
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Don't bid on one of these :)
-Vince
 
A style older even than hand-jigged bone is scratted bone. Here's what I've been able to cut and paste from Bernard Levine's forum:
Hand cut scored and dyed bone was standard on lower priced table cutlery and pocket cutlery made in Sheffield from around 1820, especially for export to the USA. It was done with a knife edge file and some potassium permanganate for the color. This type of scale is never flat -- it is either rounded, using the natural outer surface of the bone, or it is faceted. There are MANY different filing patterns.The name that the Sheffield cutlers gave to such handles as these was "scratted bone." A Jos. Rodgers catalog reprint "dated" 1894, but in fact from between c.1901 and 1912, includes one large pruner with the old style scored bone handles. Some Sheffield firms continued to offer "obsolete" patterns and construction as long as there was enough demand to sell them profitably.
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The blade of this large jack knife is marked: "HARRISON BROS & HOWSON
CUTLERS TO HER MAJESTY". (i.e., a Royal Warrant from Queen Victoria, 1837 - 1901).
The tang is marked "No. 45 NORFOLK ST. SHEFFIELD". Scales are scratted bone.

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Here are a couple more knives with scratted bone handles. Nice to see that hand filed design. I wonder if a modern maker will be brave enough to try some, some day??
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Any that do try it will claim to have invented it! (smile) I plan on showing your photos to all students that come to our seminars.
 
Ed Fowler said:
Any that do try it will claim to have invented it! (smile) I plan on showing your photos to all students that come to our seminars.
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Nice to see you hangin' round these parts, Ed. See you in a couple of months! :cool:
 
Vince I'm going to step out on a limb here, I believe that stamp is correct as is the knife..Bingham was in the cutlery Business until 1948 according to Goins. The seller states 1930 which I thought to be incorrect?
 
The fact that 42% of the winner's bids are with Myrtlefaye tells you a little something!:eek:
But I think you have to see a few W. Bingham stamps to tell what is what. The letters/lines are crowded, and there is some hint of the ridging you see with cold stamping, but it's all pretty subtle; what am I missing??
 
It's nice to see some scratted bone, that really dates it. Someday I will have one in my collection.

H&B senator
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That's real. The old-time cutlers enhanced the color of the translucent part by backing the shell with gold foil.
You can see the gold where the shell has broken off near the bolster on this Georgian fruit knife.
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