"Old Knives"

waynorth · Mar 15, 2009

Nice and OLD John!! Love this old thread!

Here's a nice old Robeson small HJ. I like to think of it as a Junior HJ

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We've got Junior Scouts, and Junior Cattleknives, so why not, hmmmm??

3 3/8" long, the bone jigging is still crisp, as is the snap. Carried around with other stuff in the pocket, and sharpened a little, but still shows the good old Robeson quality. Cooper's punch, that was used by many other cutleries and brands because it was a good one, and looked classy!

lambertiana · Mar 16, 2009

Charlie - Interesting construction - regular bolster on the pivot, and tip bolster on the head.

One could almost conclude that you have a thing for punches and harness jacks....

d.parker · Mar 16, 2009

Charlie, That's a stout little Jr. Really like the bottom tip bolster, nice knife.....

waynorth · Mar 16, 2009

lambertiana said:
Charlie - Interesting construction - regular bolster on the pivot, and tip bolster on the head.

One could almost conclude that you have a thing for punches and harness jacks....

Who??? Me???

KnifeHead · Mar 18, 2009

This stout little knife is a 3" Valley Forge Surveyor made in a whittler configuration. Valley Forge is a stamp that goes back to 1892. Sometime in 1902, Boker USA got involved in the company and ended up having controlling interest by 1916. The stamp was used from 1916-1950.

Some intersting features on this knife include:
*The master blade seems to be made from thicker material than it needs to be
*The tapered cut spacer/liner seems to be thicker on the secondary blade end than it needs to be
*The springs are notched on the inside to keep the master from rapping when closed
*The liners are bowed outward slightly in the center on the open side to make room for the blades

Too bad the punch was tipped at some time, huh Charlie

waynorth · Mar 18, 2009

Punches don't get no respect!!
Looks like someone put some excessive twist on that punch. The liner seems to have gotten a bit distorted also.
Great knife though! I really like the pattern. A good test of a cutler's skills to assemble and finish a knife with a wedged pair of backsprings.

Are the bolsters different sizes, side to side?

ken erickson · Mar 18, 2009

One of the other items that really strike me as odd or strange are the location of the scales pins. I wonder why they were not located center? Neat pattern and something I have not seen often in the world of customs. :thumbup:

Ken

KnifeHead · Mar 18, 2009

waynorth said:
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Are the bolsters different sizes, side to side?

Looks like the pile side bolster on the master blade is a bit longer...weird

ken erickson said:
One of the other items that really strike me as odd or strange are the location of the scales pins. I wonder why they were not located center? Neat pattern and something I have not seen often in the world of customs. :thumbup:

Ken

I would guess that they were positioned there to account for the weakness presented due to the angled bolsters. The extended points of the liners would be hanging out there seemingly unsecured if they centered the pins. I didn't notice it until you mentioned it...thanks Ken!

VCM3 · Mar 18, 2009

Check out Bay auction # 260376076078 ,a whittler type,a Rem.,but it's got the slant bolsters & pins similar to that knife..
-Vince

KnifeHead · Mar 18, 2009

VCM3 said:
Check out Bay auction # 260376076078 ,a whittler type,a Rem.,but it's got the slant bolsters & pins similar to that knife..
-Vince

Thanks Vince...looking at that knife gave me a clue to the reason why the tapered spacer is so thick. The spacer on the Remington at the thin end is bunched up!!

The spacer on the VF has a faster taper due to it's thickness at the thick end and that would make for a sturdier spacer at the thin end as well...that's my theory anyway.

sunnyd · Mar 18, 2009

KnifeHead said:
Thanks Vince...looking at that knife gave me a clue to the reason why the tapered spacer is so thick. The spacer on the Remington at the thin end is bunched up!! The spacer on the VF has a faster taper due to it's thickness at the thick end and that would make for a sturdier spacer at the thin end as well...that's my theory anyway.

Seems like maybe a logical conclusion here.
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Vince, Charlie and Kerry I haven't been in here for a spell and I wanted to commend you fellows on your fine recent contributions lately. I really love them all.

Charlie is right, the punch blade knives are sort of the Rodney Dangerfield breed of slippies.. They just don't seem to get 'no respect' from the vast population.

And, what is it about the back-spring wedge built Whittler type knives that have always held such a fond place in my heart ever since I laid eyes on them? Cutlers ingenuity and the pride that goes with it perhaps.. :thumbup:

Nice knives boys, very nice indeed!

Thanks,

Anthony

waynorth · Mar 18, 2009

VCM3 said:
Check out Bay auction # 260376076078 ,a whittler type,a Rem.,but it's got the slant bolsters & pins similar to that knife..
-Vince

The link;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...om=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=260376076078&fvi=1

Interesting pattern, too bad it suffered abuse. No oil, or mis-tempered. I wonder which??

waynorth · Mar 18, 2009

A little collection of Case knives I just picked up; I am fond of equal end knives, maybe because of all the utility and scout knives I've owned, worn out, broken and lost ( I was a bad kid sometimes

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Anyway, a couple of rare ones here;
A 62055 1/2 with old Rogers bone, a greenbone 64055 1/2, and last, a 6345 1/2 with faded redbone; this was a board knife that saw too much sunlight. You can see a bit of the "wire-stripe" at upper left.
The 4-blade is stamped on the other side, because the punch had to go at the front for a nice tight fit.

lambertiana · Mar 19, 2009

I love that Valley Forge! Great pattern, and I like that green waterfall celluloid.

Charlie, I wonder if you have a time machine that you have used to go back and clean out hardware stores in the past to get all those minty knives.

waynorth · Mar 19, 2009

Set the Wabac machine for 1906!!

What was that cartoon again?? On the Rocky and Bullwinkle show I think!

Found it; good old google!
Peabody's Improbable History, with Mr. Peabody and his pet boy, Sherman!
Some of the best TV of the 1960s!

waynorth · Mar 19, 2009

Here are two nice Case Tested 62005 1/2s. One I got with this latest bunch, and one I have had for a few of years (back when I was using a beige background - you know; before I consulted a designer, and took all those image improvement courses!

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I've always liked that old blade style;

knowtracks · Mar 19, 2009

I sure gotta agree wih you on the Clip blade shape there Charlie! :thumbup:

Hey I remember Prof. Peabody & Sherman on Rocky & Bullwinkle ... now those were some great cartoons!

lambertiana · Mar 19, 2009

Charlie - I finally got the current Knife World. Nice work, not one but two punch patents that Bernard didn't know about.

VCM3 · Mar 20, 2009

3-3/8" Closed.Gorgeous bone

waynorth · Mar 20, 2009

Nice! No end to the old knives you are coming up with Vince!! I hope!!!!!