"Old Knives"

Nice one Cal!! Can you do a closer shot of the main tang stamp??
 
I picked up a few new oldies this past week and finally got light enough to photo them. All have reasonably full blades and good snap, with plenty of honest patina. Any help dating the Ulster would be greatly appreciated.

Camillus 65 Junior Premium Stockman butter & molasses celluloid (1960s)
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Ulster Knife Co Junior Cattle Knife peachseed jigged bone (pre WWII)
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Boker USA Punch Cattle Knife butter & molasses celluloid (1930s)
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Took a while to get there....but....
More to follow.
The bottom one is the one I have cleaned up a bit, as you will see in later images, one has the tip broken off, due to too many Tarzan films as a kid, and an over active imagination. (Used it as a throwing knife, not one of my better ideas!) Does anybody have any idea of their possible age?

Ive seen one of these on eBay, that sold very recently, but strangely, the stamp on the blade looks to be rather poorly done, with imprecise placing of letters, also the "Pampa's legs are slightly different. I did wonder if that one was a fake one, as I have read that these Lockwood's knives were copied by unscrupulous manufacturers. Looking again, one can see that the blade stamp is composed of dots! It is totally different.
Here is the picture of it from eBay:

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Nothing concrete on the "Cold Finger" knife, but here are a few thoughts...
If that register mark on the handle represents an English patent, it would date the patent (not necessarily the knife) to around 1915.
It could be a registered number for another country as well and with a completely different date. I don't think it is an English patent number, and I think the knife dates to early post WWII.
There is a little information about this knife and a similar model on an Australian knife forum, but they don't provide any definitive information either.
 
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This is a Morton & Son's I have, this is another I'd love to know the age of. Somewhere on this forum, somebody posted an image of one of their catalogues, which showed the exact same knife on it's front page. I don't think this has had much if any use, the only problem is the bottle opener is a bit short, not sure if it is a design fault, or a bit snapped off. Most of my old knives belonged to my grandfather, who was born in 1896.
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I couldn't find this model with a Morton stamp, but did find a nearly identical model from George Butler of Sheffield.
The Butler model dates to 1950, and I believe the Morton knife dates to around the same time period.
That can opener is also a typical post WWII type.

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eisman, That's a very nice and elegant looking LF&C folder.

Campbellclanman, Great looking big old lockback Lockwood hunter, I like everything about it.

waynorth, Classic fine old jack, and what a neat etch with that arrow running through "Our Best".

tongueriver, I'm fairly certain that Ulster electrician's model dates to the mid 1950s. Pre WWII Ulster models had sheepfoot main blades, while post WWII models had spear blades like yours.
The pre WWII models had shields, but the first few years after the war had no shields and "acetate" (celluloid) handles. Wood handles with shield were offered by the early 1950s and Ulster went back to synthetic handles in the 1960s.

black mamba, nice examples from some great old cutlery companies.
 
Yes Jeff Sir- You are most certainly making our Mouths water with all this Butter and Molasses!

Thank you Herder for the nice comments, I managed to slide this out of Charlies Hands at a sell and grab meeting - last night of the Rendesvous before Paul and I had to hit the hay early as we were driving out @1am or so!.
I must Say it was more like Charlie sponsoring us into the Knife with the prices- he was really looking after us - as he could have asked a lot more elsewhere and got it - Charlie is a most generous man and he nurtures Knife people into becoming knife collectors, I kinda consider Charlie to be ( a much younger ) version of David Attenbrough ( sp?) in our World.
 
herder said:
I couldn't find this model with a Morton stamp, but did find a nearly identical model from George Butler of Sheffield.
The Butler model dates to 1950, and I believe the Morton knife dates to around the same time period.
That can opener is also a typical post WWII type.

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That's interesting, that Butler is just like it, with the same formation of three rivets. I will try to find the picture of the catalogue, hopefully the uploader may be able to add something!
The date for the Cold Fingers could well be right, (early post WW2), because, thinking about it, they could have been my father's, not my grandfather's, in which case, that would have been around the time he probably would have bought them. I increasingly find myself coming across things that make me wish, "I wish I had of asked this, or that." One tends to think one's "nearest and dearest" are going to be around forever! Sadly, not the case!!
 
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black mamba said:
I picked up a few new oldies this past week and finally got light enough to photo them. All have reasonably full blades and good snap, with plenty of honest patina. Any help dating the Ulster would be greatly appreciated.

Camillus 65 Junior Premium Stockman butter & molasses celluloid (1960s)
6XzrpLd.jpg

LMel2fu.jpg


Ulster Knife Co Junior Cattle Knife peachseed jigged bone (pre WWII)
FMtiGZ7.jpg

t4IQN2F.jpg


Boker USA Punch Cattle Knife butter & molasses celluloid (1930s)
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Nice group Jeff. The ulsters like that are practically identical to an early schrade walden 856 and a cut 8563 3/4 except the cut has a pen blade. I have suspicion that those ulster jr's may actually be schrades. The bone is at least.
 
Thanks, Paul. The bone jigging and the cut swedge on the clip main look just like Cut Cos from the same period.
 
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