Opinions on liner locks

Lapedog said:
Like I said we will just have to agree to disagree. It's true I haven't done testing. It is also true that I can feel that my hand is not putting much pressure against the lockbar. I would say that it would be worse knife technique for me to hold the knife in a way where I had to uncomfortably contort my hand in order to achieve that pressure.

As I said your hand or grip or knives are likely different than mine and likely giving you different results. Also I do beileve that a little pressure will help prevent lockbars from slipping. One thing is for sure, I have little confidence the way I hold a knife would prevent a lockbar from popping open if the spine of the knife suddenly recieved say a 200 lbs force that caused the lock to fail. I hold my knife in a firm comfortable grip but I don't gorilla grip it for general cutting like I would if I was in a self defense scenario.

I don't really see how I can test it anyway as I would have to be gripping the knife how I do usually then apply pressure either suddenly or gradually to the spine of the blade. If the lock failed the blade would certainly close on my fingers. So I'm not doubting you, just asking, how do I achieve the experiment? If I am not holding the handle as I normally would while trying to get the lock to fail then it's not really an accurate experiment. Even if I completely ground the edge of the blade flat as possible I still wouldn't want it closing on my fingers with any real force.

Anyway I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that I don't completely know.
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The way i did the test was to hold the knife in a gloved hand (cut resistant gloves of course) and hold the knife as you normally would and i smacked the spine of the knife with my other free hand with a 2x4. And i hit the thing hard. Much harder than i could ever see happening during actual use under any circumstances. It helps to perform the test with a knife that has a flipper. That way if the lock does give you the middle finger you just get a decent pinch if the gloves arent sufficient. Either way we can surely agree to disagree. Its not like their is a prize for the winner. :D The only reason i cant do the test right now and make a video is because it does tend to deform a lockface pretty good. And given my cheapest frame lock right now is $200 id rather not. I did check my local walmart to see if they had any of those cheap ozark trail $4 knives which would have been great but they didnt have any.
 
I'm excited to own my first liner lock. And the Military 204P seems like a great knife overall. Plus , people appear to like and respect Spyderco's liner locks.

There's always the exchange should I decide it's not for me. But I do lust after the Military's wicked blade.
 
Wolverine666 said:
I'm excited to own my first liner lock. And the Military 204P seems like a great knife overall. Plus , people appear to like and respect Spyderco's liner locks.

There's always the exchange should I decide it's not for me. But I do lust after the Military's wicked blade.
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That's awesome. Nothing like getting a new knife. Hope you love it!
 
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