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Opinions on Scandi for SHTF?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by campandtravel, Mar 16, 2019.

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  1. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    I just got to thinking that Scandi blades are kind of hard to maintain? You need a flat surface and a good stone or wet/dry sandpaper. But other blades you just need a stone from a river bed. In SHTF doesn't taht mean Scandi is a bad option?

    I am not trying to piss anyone off. I would actually like good arguments why I'm wrong.
     
  2. Fixall

    Fixall Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 26, 2018
    Bricks and cinder blocks are flat. If things have really gotten that bad (and you have somehow survived) you should have plenty to choose from. Who says you need to maintain the scandi grind in a life or death situation though?
     
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  3. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    Well, define SHTF?.
    If you need a good hard use knife for keeping you alive in the wilderness and for making sure, that youll be able to make shelter and a fire etc etc, a Terava carbon scandi Puukko would most likely work well.
     
  4. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    Sure, until it gets dull. Then how are you going to sharpen it while living at the shelter you just made in the wilderness? Can you think why I'm wrong? I'm really asking.
     
  5. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    Hmmm, not sure why you want me to point out if and why you are wrong...
    A scandi edge can last a good long time.
    Personally, I carry a small Fallkniven DC3 diamond/ceramic stone, should I need to sharpen any knife in the field.
     
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  6. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    Again, could you be more specific re your intended use: Basic sane wood working, shelter building, fire making or all out batoning, stabbing car doors etc etc?
     
  7. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    That's the reason I posted.

    Not years

    That wouldn't last years either.
     
  8. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    Yes to all of those, including the etc. A "SHTF" tool. Obviously this is just a theoretical conversation. Just kind of thinking out loud with anyone who wants to think out loud with me.
     
  9. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    Desperate survival for years?
    That doesnt sound like much of a living.

    As for the DC3 stone;
    I bet it will.
     
  10. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    But not smooth enough to make a good sharpening stone.
     
  11. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    Are you joking or being a jerk? I can't tell.
     
  12. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    o_O

    Im bailing on this thread. Good luck with it:rolleyes:
     
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  13. Fixall

    Fixall Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 26, 2018
    You only addressed one part of my post.

    But I see where this is heading...
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. DB_Cruiser

    DB_Cruiser

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    Jul 17, 2018
    A scandi edge wouldn't be that hard to keep sharp for a very long time, in my opinion. If it was a true survival situation and your only knife happened to be a scandi, it wouldn't really matter if you convexed the edge to keep it sharp and functional. As long as it is sharp and does what it needs to do, who cares if you're maintaining a true scandi grind? All knives will eventually wear out over a long enough time line.
    If history is any reference on this topic, it is worth pointing out that this style of knife is not even close to new. From my reading, early examples can be found that are around 1500 years old or older. I doubt that their users had anything to sharpen their knives that you could not come up with in a survival situation. If by SHTF you mean something akin to the end of civilization as we know it, time spent working to pay bills and the like becomes time to figure this stuff out. If they could do it way back in 500AD, I'd reckon it can still be done now.
     
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  15. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    @DB_Cruiser Good points! Do you have any links to old Scandi blades? Any info on how they sharpened them? Like were they only used by people after they had stable homes or was it something a viking would take on a year long raid?
     
  16. Rasmus80

    Rasmus80

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    Sep 21, 2011
    You would be better off with the Survival Lilly knife.
    For door stabbing and such.
     
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  17. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    Not really looking for the "best SHTF" knife but the TOPS BOB is about the same size and strength as the APO-1 but TOPS BOB is Scandi so maybe this is the perfect comparison. Which one is better long-term do you think not including the steel differences?
     
  18. CanadaKnifeGuy

    CanadaKnifeGuy Basic Member Basic Member

    189
    Jan 27, 2019
    Carry a DMT credit card sharpener in your wallet at all times.

    Scandis are easy to sharpen... And with one of these... you're golden!

    Problem solved.
     
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  19. campandtravel

    campandtravel

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    Mar 16, 2019
    You think that credit card sharpener is going to last longer than your edge after SHTF?

    Also who carries a wallet after SHTF?
     
  20. CanadaKnifeGuy

    CanadaKnifeGuy Basic Member Basic Member

    189
    Jan 27, 2019
    It's a diamond stone .it's going to last .they sell them in 3-packs of varying grits... So I think it'd last a long time. And if you had your sharpeners in it... I bet you'd keep your wallet on you .

    And that is in fact the best part about the DMT CC sharpeners.... WHENEVER SHTF actual occurs, you will have your sharpeners on your person.

    Is a Scandinavian my preferred geometry in this scenario.... No .the edge is too fragile for a one-size-fits-all scenario for my liking.

    A big 10" bladed kukri chopper it probably my preferred blade in that case. I have a Kershaw Camp 10 that's a chopping beast that can still be used for finer tasks nearer the handle well and even be worn cross-draw with the stock sheath .

    For an EDC post SHTF or zombie apocalypse (which statistically is a very real possibility...), Is stick with something with a thicker bladestock (4mm+) and have a less fragile geometry .

    I am drawn to full-flat grinds with a convex edge / bevel .VERY durable and easily serviceable.

    Slight trailing points with swedges and Bowie's can be both slicey and stabby, for a variety of tasks .

    Scandis are best for bushcraft and specificlaly wood work.
     
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