Order of KAI Official Hang Out; Good Times & Joyous Knives

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I can't make up my mind on how I feel about the Spyderco Group. On one hand, they're kind of copying us. On the other hand, they make great knives like Kershaw and deserve to have a group. I don't know.
 
KnottyEagle said:
I can't make up my mind on how I feel about the Spyderco Group. On one hand, they're kind of copying us. On the other hand, they make great knives like Kershaw and deserve to have a group. I don't know.
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Not really. The Becker forum has had a group for along time now. And USN has had groups upon groups over there. Matter of fact, they have had Zero Tolerance Zealots for awhile.
 
Sorry if Im not authorized to post but lets not act like your Order is the first of its kind. Knife clubs have been around. Hoping for well wishers. Its Spydercos first group, hope its a success like its first flipper! Lol. Live and let live! Drop on by and say whuhdduppp...

Ooh the ZT Zealots. Sick name.
 
I don't have a problem with a Spyderco group at all. As long as they don't start badmouthing us awesome peeps. Spyderco and Kershaw/ZT are my favorite knife companies by far.

On a brighter note. My new EP stone is ready to be used. Epoxy fully set an hour ago. I'm gonna reprofile that Manix that I reground tomorrow. Anyone have any experience with how well 154cm holds up with low angles? I want this thing to slice like no other but don't want to waste my time if the steel can't handle low angles well.
 
I think Esav is attempting to shut it down anyway, just got word.

Well Stick, just trying to be kind.
 
seelow123 said:
I don't have a problem with a Spyderco group at all. As long as they don't start badmouthing us awesome peeps. Spyderco and Kershaw/ZT are my favorite knife companies by far.

On a brighter note. My new EP stone is ready to be used. Epoxy fully set an hour ago. I'm gonna reprofile that Manix that I reground tomorrow. Anyone have any experience with how well 154cm holds up with low angles? I want this thing to slice like no other but don't want to waste my time if the steel can't handle low angles well.
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Murray Carter challenges everyone to go too thin. And then back off from what too thin is. You could try what I have been doing. Roughly 12 degree secondary bevel per side, then a 30 degree microbevel. If it cant handle it, just thicken the angles up a bit.
 
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I probably missed it, but seelow didn't u say u were from ky?
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Are you talking about the thing with Duro? I live in KY right now but I'm from california if that's what you're talking about. I'm confused lol.

Steel130 said:
Murray Carter challenges everyone to go too thin. And then back off from what too thin is. You could try what I have been doing. Roughly 12 degree secondary bevel per side, then a 30 degree microbevel. If it cant handle it, just thicken the angles up a bit.
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That's a good idea. Don't know 'till you try it I guess. I think I'll go with that 12 per side with 30 degree microbevel. Thanks!
 
So Got my New DLC today...So I got #069 and #020...Some interesting differences..#020 has a Matte looking CF scale, It came with a Zipper Pouch and the Box is Different...Weird!
The #020 box is on the Bottom
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seelow123 said:
Are you talking about the thing with Duro? I live in KY right now but I'm from california if that's what you're talking about. I'm confused lol.



That's a good idea. Don't know 'till you try it I guess. I think I'll go with that 12 per side with 30 degree microbevel. Thanks!
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Anytime. If you are bored here is a good read from Zknives. I think it is posted over in Maintenance Tinkering and Embellishment too. Joe Talmadge is the author.

That doesn't mean that significant performance advantages can't be had by choosing the right steel for the job. In fact, choosing a steel can significantly impact the performance of a knife. But, to really bring out the performance of a particular steel, you need to take advantage of the better steel in your sharpening plan. If a weak, brittle steel can perform the job when sharpened at 25-degrees-per-side, a strong, tough steel might give you some marginal performance improvements if it, too, is sharpened at 25-degrees-per-side. However, to really bring out the performance of the better steel, trying bringing it down to 20-degrees per side, or less. The advantage of the better steel is that it is strong and tough enough to hold up with a small edge angle -- and smaller edge angles radically out-perform bigger edge angles. It's easy to get a 10-to-1 perform advantage for certain cutting jobs by cutting 5 degrees off your sharpening angle.

This leads to the general rule:
To really see the advantages of a better steel, exploit that steel in your sharpening program. If you're going to sharpen all your knives at the same angle regardless of steel, you might de-emphasize steel choice somewhat.

On the internet, I'll often see someone posting about wanting to upgrade from their ATS-34 folder to one that has S30V, and then in a different post, declare that they sharpen all their knives at 20° per-side. Why spend all that extra money for S30V, just to get some marginal wear resistance advantages but no other performance advantages? If that same user would take advantage of S30V's superior toughness and drop the edge angle to 15° per-side, they would see a large leap in cutting performance, along with the extra wear resistance. Because of choosing the right sharpening angle, the more expensive S30V knife now gives an impressive return on investment. *Now* you can see what all the fuss is about!
 
FCM415 said:
I think Esav is attempting to shut it down anyway, just got word.
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Its a shame that "gentleman" and I use that term very loosely in this case, had to do over there what he did over here a week or so ago. He enjoys rustling feathers and being ...well himself.

I was going through when it got locked. Seems like you guys had some good ideas. There were a few jabs in there but hey whatever, no hard feelings either way, I am sure it was all in good fun!
I have zero animosity towards any group and feel most of us here are in the same frame of mind. I was about to wish you guys luck with it. I hope it all sorts out and good luck to you all.
 
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chester22 said:
So Got my New DLC today...So I got #069 and #020...Some interesting differences..#020 has a Matte looking CF scale, It came with a Zipper Pouch and the Box is Different...Weird!
The #020 box is on the Bottom
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Yummy...TiLTs. How many have you owned now? 15-20?? Also, what's on the ZT stand in the background?
 
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