Order of KAI Official Hang Out; Part Deux - It's Enrico Palazzo!

KnottyEagle said:
Just out of curiosity (because I'm a curious person), how much time and work goes into uploading a video? I imagine it gets pretty tiring and frustrating at times.


Also, my tests came up clean, not like I wasn't expecting anything else, but I wanted to tell you guys. I could've filled up 5 cups if I had too.
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It depends. One of Dave's videos takes about a total of 2 hours to film, and that's about a 4 minute overview with 15-20 seconds of B roll shots. It takes a while because the overviews are one take, and I don't like cutting them together. So, it takes on average 5-6 takes before I get one I'm happy with. The B roll stuff entails finding a location and setting up the camera and slider, and all that. Not difficult, just time consuming. Editing takes about 50 minutes, sometimes an hour. I have to find some stock music that works, sift though all the shots of B roll for the takes that are usable, and then cut it all together and mix the audio. Sometimes I have to color correct or adjust brightness depending on how accurate the shot was on the LCD of the camera.

Rendering doesn't take long, usually 8 minutes for a 5 minute video assuming it's a 2-pass VBR at max bit depth and render quality. Uploading at work takes nothing at all, like 15 minutes for a 5-7 minute video. At work we have FiOS Business Class, and it's 80mbps down, 25mbps up. :D

One of my personal videos...sometimes I don't even edit them. I pop the logo on and render them out. The review of the 0801 will take a while since it's close to 20 minutes long. Involved projects take a while because I watch them while editing, then have to rewatch the edits and then watch the final product before rendering. That KAI Roundtable took a long, long, long time to get through.


Congrats on the test. What were they testing you for?


bad_juju said:
Reprofiling the ZDP-189 on the blur. Taking a little bit o' time. Not horrible though.



Yes his deuce! I'm still laughing about it!


Gotta love kids!

Wait till I tell you guys what he did the other night! I have another open house so I'm off for a bit!
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I'm jealous about the Blur... So, what did your kid do? Make a poop-castle at the beach? :D


metsfan said:
Filming that video was fun sticky. Especially the threat of us turning a corner and walking into a cop car and promptly thereafter getting arrested...
Fun times indeed
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I'd be fine. I'd just say it was the brown man and I'd have gotten off scott-free. You may try to show your PBA thing, but I'd say you stole it. :D
 
sticktodrum said:
I did not. I put up a video of how it struck me at first go.

As for the underlying negativity topic, I want to express something rather plainly. Yes VVVVVV, you're trying to help. Great. I'm not sure exactly how, but fine. Noble gesture that you're the intermediary between Mark and this publicly viewable forum on the Internet. That wasn't plain old sarcasm, by the way, it was mockery. Why? Because I think that the whole situation is a farce and you shouldn't be facilitating it.

As I saw it, Mark missed out on knife giveaways. He got upset that he did, but instead of just going with the flow and being grateful that we were all having a good time, and having a go, he got pissy and moody like a child. If he didn't like us having a go at him, he could have just said that it wasn't cool and that we should just lay off. Instead, he got pissy and posted dramatic nonsense about the sentimentality of how spending time with his family is so much better than getting free knives. Well...duh. No one actually implied that he should stay glued to the screen so as not to miss the chance for a giveaway. It that wasn't an eye-roll-worthy moment then I don't know what is.

Then, he has a go at Gino for bringing negativity to the hangout thread. The moderator who was giving away ZTs for kicks, brought negativity. Oh yeah...that's a nice "how do you do?" Manny was right, that whole stunt made everyone look bad in front Thomas. Me included. Manny still retains awesome status. That being said, am I seriously the only one who saw that Mark pulled this "If I personally see something I don't like I'm going to get him involved" crap directed at the mod who was giving away gifts? I really couldn't believe it when I saw it. It was clear that Mark was acting like a little child that didn't have the maturity to apologize for acting like a jerk and sitting in Kai's lap to slap his face.

VVVVVVV, you want to help? It's my opinion that you just don't. Mark's a kid, he's demonstrated that quite clearly. You are a kid, you continue to demonstrate that even now. A kid playing telephone for another, or doing this "You can tell them that I'm blah blah blah" is nonsense. Mark has something to say? He should be an adult and say it himself instead of getting you, some other kid, to speak for him. No one said he can't post here. It was Mark who did that nonsense dramatic exit and pretended to be super-mature about it. I can see through it, I hope others can as well.

None of this dramatic emo junk is necessary. He wants to come back and act like an adult? Fine with me, I like the kid. He's got a good heart, a sound mind, and a decent sense of humor. His problem is that he's a kid. You are too VVVVV, and personally it would behoove Mark to not get tangled in your child-telephone game because it's not going to benefit him or you.

This is a knife forum. We collect and use dangerous objects that have the potential to hurt others and ourselves. There are laws restricting the sale, ownership, and use of these tools and weapons. Maturity should be a given, yet here we all are witnessing kid's play in the midst of it. Why is it that I have to explain all this to you? I make jokes, most of them aren't good. However I'm mature enough to know when I'm being inappropriate or when I should take a step back. I've done it before, I've apologized to people before. That's part of being an adult. I'm not seeing any of that here from either you VVVVVVVVV, or Mark.

Grow. Up.
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Mark wasn't acting pissy because he missed out on a knife. He is going through a tough time right now, and is sad and angry. I won't tell you what happened to him, but you're welcome to shoot him a PM.

Just know that he is very frustrated and upset right now, and much like many other people, let it show through text on the internet. And let me say that again: The Internet.

You two had some silly little fight over nonsense, IMO. I want you two to shake hands and make up, like men.

Oh and VVV is a nice kid trying to help out. I don't see the need to mock him. Mocking is very childish.
 
I hear ya stick, that's why I said after that stunt in front of Thomas that maybe that is one resignation we should just accept. He is ungrateful he has gotten an amazing amount of free stuff since he joined. I have gotten two free knives as a result of these forums neither of which very expensive but I fealt like I hit the lotto both times lol. I have missed out on more free stuff than I can count but I never feel bitter about it, I think it's pretty sweet that it happened every time I hear about it. VVV for what it's worth I like you and think you are a good kid, my advice is to simply let mark do mark and move on with the rest of us. Lol my girl thinks it's funny because I am more laid back on the forums usually than in real life, Usually I tend to be a bit more confrontational but then my real life is just that... My real life. This is a hobby that I do for fun and as such I try to keep it fun. I am posting now because I have an extreme amount of respect for all the KAI mods, and especially Thomas... I mean the guy is a legend to me. So when he pops in announcing himself after a year being away and in no time at all someone throws a temper tantrum and he says that he has seen all he needs to and leaves.... My blood was boiling. It was unforgivable to me. Also to any newer members... Have your ducks in a row before you argue with stick as you are gonna be in for a fight. I would probably hate and fight with you all the time stick... But there just aren't that many issues where my opinions differ from yours. We all have personal problems from time to time, that is called life. The fact is, if you take your troubles out on those around you then you had better prepare yourself... Because there are going to be consequences.
 
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CJZ said:
Mark wasn't acting pissy because he missed out on a knife. He is going through a tough time right now, and is sad and angry. I won't tell you what happened to him, but you're welcome to shoot him a PM.

Just know that he is very frustrated and upset right now, and much like many other people, let it show through text on the internet. And let me say that again: The Internet.

You two had some silly little fight over nonsense, IMO. I want you two to shake hands and make up, like men.

Oh and VVV is a nice kid trying to help out. I don't see the need to mock him. Mocking is very childish.
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Frankly, I have no interest in seeking out his troubles. Life is rough for many, and I'm more than willing and happy to open an ear to anyone who wants to vent their troubles and find solidarity. Many have done just that in this chat thread, and it's a great thing. We're all fighting a tough battle, some more so than others. It does not, however, give one the right or cause to take out their frustrations on others under the guise of something else. That is not appropriate, and doesn't show maturity. What does show maturity is expressing one's thoughts appropriately. Again, people have done that here and have found comfort in getting things off their chest and finding commonality in the experiences of others.

Yes, it's the Internet. I agree that it shouldn't be fluffed up to something it's not, i.e. real life. However considering a lot of the issues were directed at people, one mustn't forget that there are real people here, and that is a two-way street. My paragraph above details what I mean by that.

I didn't have a fight. It was all nonsense, yes, but I wasn't fighting with anyone. The only person I recall having a tiff with in any capacity was freewheeling, and I thought I was pretty open and honest about it. I'm not shaking anyone's hand who won't own up to their words. As I've said, I stand by the things I say even when I feel I have to apologize for them. I however do not ask that they be divorced from me for the sake of escaping accountability.

WWW is a nice kid, yes. We all know that. However that doesn't change that he's essentially trying to mediate a situation that doesn't need mediation. If he wants to be a friend for Mark that listens to his woes, I think that's a great thing. I'm sure many here would do similarly if they were put in that position, myself included. What he's doing wrong is fostering the immature situation of that telephone game I mentioned earlier and that is just not a way that gets any kind of actual progress.


Mark could be having the worst time in the world right now, and I sympathize absolutely. Again, we've all had troubling times and we have our ways of going about dealing with it. I don't think, however, it's right, fair, or mature to carry on the way he did, creating a sour atmosphere, and then blaming everyone else (including the moderator) for his behavior.

As for mockery, it is not childish. Comedy is mockery, as is satire, and criticisms of all sorts. It's a legitimate tool to illustrate the folly of a situation or action and I don't see how it's at all the tool of a child. If anything, a child who is mocking something or someone has hit a point of growth that enables them to comment on the world around them.





































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So here's my take...

Mark is going through a difficult time? That's unfortunate...so should we all be tip toeing around here?

Listen fellas, life sucks and bad things happen all the time to us. That's it...nothing else. If Mark was going through a rough patch he should've just stayed away from here till things got better but he contonued making it worse for himself by persuing it further. Stick didn't do anything that he hasn't done before...he should've seen he was arguing with a kid and realized that there was no point to it and I told him as much earlier today. I didn't lecture him about it...just mentioned it.

VVV, I get that you're trying to help smooth things out for Mark but he has to do it himself. We'll respect him much more if he does it without using a spokesperson.

I don't buy it when people use "going through a rough time" as an excuse. Seriously. We all do from time to time and it isn't am excuse. Not in a career, not in a relationship, not in the real world. The world doesn't care if I'm going through a hard time and neither should any of you. Why? Because at the end of the day its MY PROBLEM and no one else's. I like you guys a lot and just want you folks to know that the purpose of this thread is to have fun and keep things light. Sure we'll post up when we're having wife trouble or car issues but to bring our problems here and get upset, offended, angry, etc because of it is ridiculous.

If sticky upsets any of you guys with anything he says, just tell him so. Don't try to be witty and retort...you'll find that he won't relent until you give up and I mean that...he is in another class when it comes to arguing or debating. He is a Jedi and most of you guys are outclassed. We go at it plenty of time but we both are mature enough to accept it and move on once its over. But tell him straight up. He won't ignore your request...he's got way too much class to do otherwise. Trust me.

So there ya go guys. The world doesn't care about our problems and whatever negativity is in this thread is our own fault. Mark wants to come back, he's more than welcomed to. His exit was his own doing and his re admittance should be as well. I remember a line from Jurassic Park, "I don't blame anyone for their mistakes...but I do ask that they pay for them." John Hammond said that to Dennis Nedry and it applies to appropriately to most of life's situations.
 
CJZ, and VVV, you don't need to stand up for me. You don't need to get into any sort of argument because of my actions. And I'll agree with Mario on this.
My actions and comments were unnecessary, unwanted, and childish. I apologize to anyone I may have offended, but when I said I didn't care I missed out on a knife, I meant it. I swear on my life that I wasn't upset about it.
Once again I apologize for my actions.
I won't go into detail about what happened to me recently, no need to sadden this place any further.
And the last thing I am is ungrateful. I'm very grateful for what I've been given. Everything I've been given on this forum I've kept, because it's sentimental to me. So if you got that impression from me, please understand that's not my true feelings.
 
metsfan said:
So here's my take...

Mark is going through a difficult time? That's unfortunate...so should we all be tip toeing around here?

Listen fellas, life sucks and bad things happen all the time to us. That's it...nothing else. If Mark was going through a rough patch he should've just stayed away from here till things got better but he contonued making it worse for himself by persuing it further. Stick didn't do anything that he hasn't done before...he should've seen he was arguing with a kid and realized that there was no point to it and I told him as much earlier today. I didn't lecture him about it...just mentioned it.

VVV, I get that you're trying to help smooth things out for Mark but he has to do it himself. We'll respect him much more if he does it without using a spokesperson.

I don't buy it when people use "going through a rough time" as an excuse. Seriously. We all do from time to time and it isn't am excuse. Not in a career, not in a relationship, not in the real world. The world doesn't care if I'm going through a hard time and neither should any of you. Why? Because at the end of the day its MY PROBLEM and no one else's. I like you guys a lot and just want you folks to know that the purpose of this thread is to have fun and keep things light. Sure we'll post up when we're having wife trouble or car issues but to bring our problems here and get upset, offended, angry, etc because of it is ridiculous.

If sticky upsets any of you guys with anything he says, just tell him so. Don't try to be witty and retort...you'll find that he won't relent until you give up and I mean that...he is in another class when it comes to arguing or debating. He is a Jedi and most of you guys are outclassed. We go at it plenty of time but we both are mature enough to accept it and move on once its over. But tell him straight up. He won't ignore your request...he's got way too much class to do otherwise. Trust me.

So there ya go guys. The world doesn't care about our problems and whatever negativity is in this thread is our own fault. Mark wants to come back, he's more than welcomed to. His exit was his own doing and his re admittance should be as well. I remember a line from Jurassic Park, "I don't blame anyone for their mistakes...but I do ask that they pay for them." John Hammond said that to Dennis Nedry and it applies to appropriately to most of life's situations.
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One of my all time favorite quotes/sayings.

I had no involvement in the occurrences here so I will still out of it. I do however believe that if you had no involvement to begin with. It is best to leave it that way. To many people interjecting just furthers the confusion and chaos.

I hope that TotalD does not stay away. Especially with as long as some of us have been around.
 
TotalDbag said:
CJZ, and VVV, you don't need to stand up for me. You don't need to get into any sort of argument because of my actions. And I'll agree with Mario on this.
My actions and comments were unnecessary, unwanted, and childish. I apologize to anyone I may have offended, but when I said I didn't care I missed out on a knife, I meant it. I swear on my life that I wasn't upset about it.
Once again I apologize for my actions.
I won't go into detail about what happened to me recently, no need to sadden this place any further.
And the last thing I am is ungrateful. I'm very grateful for what I've been given. Everything I've been given on this forum I've kept, because it's sentimental to me. So if you got that impression from me, please understand that's not my true feelings.
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Dude you screwed up and that's it. No need to delve much further. You messed up and you're sorry. That's all that you'll ever need to say in life going forward.

We all like you and even if some people here don't, it doesn't really matter. You enjoy the thread and that should be enough of a reason to stay.

I win.
 
metsfan said:
So here's my take...

Mark is going through a difficult time? That's unfortunate...so should we all be tip toeing around here?

Listen fellas, life sucks and bad things happen all the time to us. That's it...nothing else. If Mark was going through a rough patch he should've just stayed away from here till things got better but he contonued making it worse for himself by persuing it further. Stick didn't do anything that he hasn't done before...he should've seen he was arguing with a kid and realized that there was no point to it and I told him as much earlier today. I didn't lecture him about it...just mentioned it.

VVV, I get that you're trying to help smooth things out for Mark but he has to do it himself. We'll respect him much more if he does it without using a spokesperson.

I don't buy it when people use "going through a rough time" as an excuse. Seriously. We all do from time to time and it isn't am excuse. Not in a career, not in a relationship, not in the real world. The world doesn't care if I'm going through a hard time and neither should any of you. Why? Because at the end of the day its MY PROBLEM and no one else's. I like you guys a lot and just want you folks to know that the purpose of this thread is to have fun and keep things light. Sure we'll post up when we're having wife trouble or car issues but to bring our problems here and get upset, offended, angry, etc because of it is ridiculous.

If sticky upsets any of you guys with anything he says, just tell him so. Don't try to be witty and retort...you'll find that he won't relent until you give up and I mean that...he is in another class when it comes to arguing or debating. He is a Jedi and most of you guys are outclassed. We go at it plenty of time but we both are mature enough to accept it and move on once its over. But tell him straight up. He won't ignore your request...he's got way too much class to do otherwise. Trust me.

So there ya go guys. The world doesn't care about our problems and whatever negativity is in this thread is our own fault. Mark wants to come back, he's more than welcomed to. His exit was his own doing and his re admittance should be as well. I remember a line from Jurassic Park, "I don't blame anyone for their mistakes...but I do ask that they pay for them." John Hammond said that to Dennis Nedry and it applies to appropriately to most of life's situations.
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sticktodrum said:
Frankly, I have no interest in seeking out his troubles. Life is rough for many, and I'm more than willing and happy to open an ear to anyone who wants to vent their troubles and find solidarity. Many have done just that in this chat thread, and it's a great thing. We're all fighting a tough battle, some more so than others. It does not, however, give one the right or cause to take out their frustrations on others under the guise of something else. That is not appropriate, and doesn't show maturity. What does show maturity is expressing one's thoughts appropriately. Again, people have done that here and have found comfort in getting things off their chest and finding commonality in the experiences of others.

Yes, it's the Internet. I agree that it shouldn't be fluffed up to something it's not, i.e. real life. However considering a lot of the issues were directed at people, one mustn't forget that there are real people here, and that is a two-way street. My paragraph above details what I mean by that.

I didn't have a fight. It was all nonsense, yes, but I wasn't fighting with anyone. The only person I recall having a tiff with in any capacity was freewheeling, and I thought I was pretty open and honest about it. I'm not shaking anyone's hand who won't own up to their words. As I've said, I stand by the things I say even when I feel I have to apologize for them. I however do not ask that they be divorced from me for the sake of escaping accountability.

WWW is a nice kid, yes. We all know that. However that doesn't change that he's essentially trying to mediate a situation that doesn't need mediation. If he wants to be a friend for Mark that listens to his woes, I think that's a great thing. I'm sure many here would do similarly if they were put in that position, myself included. What he's doing wrong is fostering the immature situation of that telephone game I mentioned earlier and that is just not a way that gets any kind of actual progress.


Mark could be having the worst time in the world right now, and I sympathize absolutely. Again, we've all had troubling times and we have our ways of going about dealing with it. I don't think, however, it's right, fair, or mature to carry on the way he did, creating a sour atmosphere, and then blaming everyone else (including the moderator) for his behavior.

As for mockery, it is not childish. Comedy is mockery, as is satire, and criticisms of all sorts. It's a legitimate tool to illustrate the folly of a situation or action and I don't see how it's at all the tool of a child. If anything, a child who is mocking something or someone has hit a point of growth that enables them to comment on the world around them.





































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Alright. I will stop now, this issue seems to be resolved.
 
TotalDbag said:
CJZ, and VVV, you don't need to stand up for me. You don't need to get into any sort of argument because of my actions. And I'll agree with Mario on this.
My actions and comments were unnecessary, unwanted, and childish. I apologize to anyone I may have offended, but when I said I didn't care I missed out on a knife, I meant it. I swear on my life that I wasn't upset about it.
Once again I apologize for my actions.
I won't go into detail about what happened to me recently, no need to sadden this place any further.
And the last thing I am is ungrateful. I'm very grateful for what I've been given. Everything I've been given on this forum I've kept, because it's sentimental to me. So if you got that impression from me, please understand that's not my true feelings.
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so are you back now :o
 
metsfan said:
Dude you screwed up and that's it. No need to delve much further. You messed up and you're sorry. That's all that you'll ever need to say in life going forward.

We all like you and even if some people here don't, it doesn't really matter. You enjoy the thread and that should be enough of a reason to stay.

I win.
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Delve further?
 
Maybe it's time for a new chat thread, perhaps?

A clean slate :)
 
i dont think it needs one, here, all in favor of restart mentally completely, no reference at all to these events? I? :o
 
VENI VIDI VICI said:
i dont think it needs one, here, all in favor of restart mentally completely, no reference at all to these events? I? :o
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Nah dawg...no mental restarts. Mistakes should be learned from. Pretending they never happened negates the learning.

I think you all are swell.

And I still win. Why? Because I'm awesome that's why. Beer time.
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