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OT: glock less for the first time in years!
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Oh boy we're getting dangerously close to another Internet forum caliber war --- so before it gets started allow me to fire the first shot heard around the world --- 10 mm > everything
No caliber war. I'd love to be able to afford to run 10mm. (And find the ammo).... Also I've been told, by my gun dealer, that Glocks in 10mm don't last more than 5000 rounds.....
Input please
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Yea, A few years ago I sold all my glocks only to miss them. The good news is they don't change much and are easy to find. I now own 4 glocks.
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9 years and only 3000 rnds......????? what are you waiting for? Its barely broke in
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No caliber war. I'd love to be able to afford to run 10mm. (And find the ammo).... Also I've been told, by my gun dealer, that Glocks in 10mm don't last more than 5000 rounds.....
Input please
Has this dealer shot that many?
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No caliber war. I'd love to be able to afford to run 10mm. (And find the ammo).... Also I've been told, by my gun dealer, that Glocks in 10mm don't last more than 5000 rounds.....
Input please
Hmmm not sure where your dealer got that info -- no disrespect to him because I'm sure he has a great deal of experience talking to customers, but --- it really all depends on so many factors. If he meant 5,000 round of super potent reloads -- ok maybe --- even then I would be curious to know if he was referring to the barrel, the rod, or the frame. I suspect that the G20 could easily handle more rounds than that -- but I guess we'd need a really large sample size to run a reliable study.
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I guess you'll just have to "upgrade" to a Glock 20 now
Rob_mob is right. From someone who has both make the upgrade to the 20, if you are going to carry that kind of size and weight get the most out of it.
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To add to what Rob said, your dealer is not the most relieable source of information. A lot of the target ammo you buy is loaded way lighter than the gun is built to with stand so you are shooting under powered loads in an over built gun which will increase the guns life, then you have the potency of full power defense load to shoot sometime for practice and carry for business (same philosophy as shooting 38spl in a 357mag). The 10mm is a great load that doesn't get nearly enough credit IMHO
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Lol -- M67 is definitely more knowledgable than I am when it comes to firearms --- but he's also considerably more biased without objective merit too (with regard to his Glock hatred). I heard a Glock stole his lunch money in High School -- I guess I'd be traumatized too
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Well said -- I agree completely. However, I'm sure we're all still interested to hear what your dealer was referring to. So I guess if any additional info comes your way -- please share.
While I enjoy shooting my Kimber at the range, the reliability and capacity of the Glock make it my preference for self defense.
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....yup! I guess I should. The dealer was saying that the frame would be the issue. In any event, I don't think that I could find much 10mm in Quebec. Even less so full power. I've also read (on some forums) that the most common 10mm are akin to .40 cal. Any truth to that? A work mate of mine owns a 10mm.... He was talking about selling it last year....
Owning such a firearm here is strictly for the range. No chance of ever having one for protection in the bush.
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Correct on a lot of being similar to 40 s&w. The FBI started loading them light (way under their potential) for agents who couldn't handle the 10mm, then decided that there was no need for the size if it was just going to be down loaded, the 40 cal was born and slapped onto a 9mm frame. When I took glock armorers school the instructor said that 90% of the problems he sees with glocks are in 40 cal frames. As for the full power 10mm there are only a hand full of manufacturers that load 10mm to its full potential where the 40 cal is all a relatively high pressure for the frame it is on.
Why couldn't you carry it in the Bush? Laws that bad there?
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He says Mate, and Bush. I'm willing to bet he's an Aussie
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I wouldn't put any value into that a G20 or 29 would only go 5000 rds. If the issue would be with the frame, what is the issue? The locking block cracking? slide rails shearing? Most any 10mm factory load is 40 S&W ballistics, and the large-frame 10mm is certainly way beefier than the small-frame 40. And I've shot, conservatively, 25,000 rds of 40 in Glocks. I have a box of Buffalo Bore 10mm that states on the box a velocity of 1255 fps with 180 gr. I haven't chronographed them, but they sound subsonic to me out of a 5" 1911. And if they won't make published velocity in a 5" bbl, they ain't making it in a handgun.
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I agree that 5000 is low, although anything can happen. Personally I have shot substantially more than that thru both a G17 and a Sig 226 before catastrophic failure. Granted these are 9mm, but I do mean a lot more rounds down range.
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Not Aussie but Canadian. Handguns along with many rifles (AR amongst others) are considered restricted here. They can only be taken out of your home to go to a range and straight back home (shortest route). I do believe that Australian laws are stricter still. No semi auto or pump shotties.
AK are illegal in Canada along with many military style firearms. I don't live close to the bush but the only reason you can hope to get out there, (outside of hunting season) with a firearm, is if you are FAR into the bush (or forest, tundra, whatever
). Other wise, the authorities will be asking questions.... And fellow hikers calling it in ASAP.Mind you..... Forest wardens are few and far apart.....still, shouldn't have to hide.
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I know this thread is about Glocks but.... One more thing....
I often read people criticizing the Mini 14 or Benelli MR-1 (sadly no longer available) and other rifles. Many on blogs are saying "just get an AR or AK" .... It just isn't a choice for many out there. Minis and MR-1 are NON restricted here, better choice for many.... Just saying. Protect your rights, folks!
All center fire, semi auto rifles are limited to 5 rounds mag....pistols to 10 (hey!... Canucks beat New York on pistol capacity
).... No chance of carry permits. Can't own a firearm for self defense. Permit won't be issued.
I often read people criticizing the Mini 14 or Benelli MR-1 (sadly no longer available) and other rifles. Many on blogs are saying "just get an AR or AK" .... It just isn't a choice for many out there. Minis and MR-1 are NON restricted here, better choice for many.... Just saying. Protect your rights, folks!
All center fire, semi auto rifles are limited to 5 rounds mag....pistols to 10 (hey!... Canucks beat New York on pistol capacity
).... No chance of carry permits. Can't own a firearm for self defense. Permit won't be issued.
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