OT: Save the price?

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if someone is willing to pay the price the item is not overpriced-Cheers!!!
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So if you didn't sell for an overpriced price, what's the reason for not sharing it again?

I see benefit in sharing what goods are sold for to help others looking for similar models and price points. I don't see any benefit in your thinking, only that you can have less educated buyers when you sell?
 
plue said:
I don't see any benefit in your thinking, only that you can have less educated buyers when you sell?
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The benefit stated is that if prices are removed someone who finds a good deal, buys the knife, and decides to resell it can set the price higher and not get a bunch of grief for flipping it, (and that it's nobody's business if that's what a person wants to do).

To be clear, I am not making an accusation, just how I read the post. In general, I would support the right of people who want to remove prices to do so, as well as the right for someone to list a knife for sale at whatever price they see fit, without regard to what they paid or when they bought it (as long as the activity doesn't begin to verge on being a dealer under forum rules, i.e. "you might be a dealer if...").

It seems like most who've posted here agree that leaving the asking price up on sold items is beneficial. I'd encourage it and hope more sellers will do so, but don't really feel it should be a rule or anything.
 
Honestly I can see it being beneficial but when I sell I take the prices down. Knives don't always sell for what we ask, sometimes there are all types of stipulations. I'm not making any of the that public. Just my opinion.

I think the bigger issue, on the busse exchange in particular, is the f&f gift option. I don't use it when buying or selling. I purchased lots of knives before I found busse and I will say the first couple purchases I made on the busse exchange were NOT smooth. I'm not saying anyone's behavior was shady, everything turned out relatively well but I'm really glad I used goods & services.

I've also purchased knives that at least in part because the price was such a good deal. If those knives sat around I sold them, sometimes at a profit. I don't make any money playing with knives so I'd really not want a bunch of grief from a member if I make $25 on a sale once.

In the end most of us are Americans: we want our privacy and we want to do thing our way. I may leave some prices up there since I see people want that but we'll see.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
Of course, the BUYER can ask the SELLER to keep names out of the thread. This would be the most wise decision.
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In most cases, it is the buyer putting his name in the thread. Relatively few sellers routinely post a buyer's name if the buyer hasn't claimed the item in the thread. (I'm not suggesting that is a bad thing.) I'm one that will not post a claim in a thread, and I have forfeited items because sellers have been insistent on that being a requirement of sale. It isn't because I'm planning on flipping the knife, or that my significant other might see; but my reasons mean enough to me that I am willing to lose purchases over them.
 
I guess I'm one of those guys that are private.

I think it is rude when you make a score and someone asks you how much you paid. I got more than a few of those messages when I scored the MOASS.

I've only bought one blade through the forum/bay without negotiating on the price and even on that one we worked a deal out on the terms of the purchase. I think all of these things are between the buyer and seller.

But it can also hurt by not being there too. Like the guy on the bay with a MOABM 1 of 27 listed for $2600. Someone new with no way to see pricing could get scammed on a double original price blade.

Ultimately we all decide on what we consider a fair price. Me personally I prefer rare or uniques and am willing to pay for that. And even though I never intend to sell them, the pricing is still mine to know.
 
LukeTheSpook said:
Knives don't always sell for what we ask, sometimes there are all types of stipulations. I'm not making any of the that public.
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Even if a price is left, it doesn't mean it sold for the asking price...but I'll agree that lower than normal prices can impact an inflated market, and that might be part of people's concerns.

I think the bigger issue, on the busse exchange in particular, is the f&f gift option.
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That is widespread on this site; but I'll agree that it is especially prominent in the Busse exchange. That's another deal killer for me - and I don't care if the item is priced $100 less than original. (Yeah, cutting off my nose to spite my face - principle is funny like that, sometimes).
What gets me are the people that don't post it in the ad, and tell the prospective buyer when they give payment information...or, worse still, the ones that make it an issue after they have received payment. (I've cancelled a couple of purchases for that reason, as well)
 
LukeTheSpook said:
I think the bigger issue, on the busse exchange in particular, is the f&f gift option. I don't use it when buying or selling. I purchased lots of knives before I found busse and I will say the first couple purchases I made on the busse exchange were NOT smooth. I'm not saying anyone's behavior was shady, everything turned out relatively well but I'm really glad I used goods & services.
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Paying G&S instead of F&F is having a piece of mind. Asking F&F payments for goods and services is also a violation of PP service agreement. If paypal finds out that a seller is asking for a f&f payment, then that seller risks their f&f option being revoked. I do not see a reason for folks not to add the PP fees to the price of their knives and then accept g&s payments.

I have been contacted on several occasions, when selling a knife, by folks pointing at old threads with considerably under market valued sales to try and squeeze out a deal.
In this respect leaving the price is a not good practice. I think the issue is easily solved by publishing a price range guide for all Busse and Kin knives. Even better post original prices and then let folks decide whether they are willing to pay the asking price.
 
I've been trying to leave prices up just because some people get so worked up when you erase your thread :rolleyes: IMHO, this is a classic example of "sweating the small stuff."
 
mainaman said:
Paying G&S instead of F&F is having a piece of mind. Asking F&F payments for goods and services is also a violation of PP service agreement. If paypal finds out that a seller is asking for a f&f payment, then that seller risks their f&f option being revoked. I do not see a reason for folks not to add the PP fees to the price of their knives and then accept g&s payments.
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It always surprised me that sellers are allowed to solicit the f&f/gift option on Paypal here, due to the points you raise. It seems like the standard should be if you accept Paypal, the asking price should be the "Goods" price and any negotiation of a discount for f&f or other pymt methods should take place offline.

I have been contacted on several occasions, when selling a knife, by folks pointing at old threads with considerably under market valued sales to try and squeeze out a deal.
In this respect leaving the price is a not good practice. I think the issue is easily solved by publishing a price range guide for all Busse and Kin knives. Even better post original prices and then let folks decide whether they are willing to pay the asking price.
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I can see that being annoying, but would just view it as ordinary negotiation. You can still stand firm on what you're willing to accept, point out why the prices cited do not reflect the current market, meet in the middle, etc...

Maybe it's my finance background talking, but while I respect individual desicions on whether to leave the prices or not here, I generally feel the more transparency there is in a market, the better.
 
I would agree with some of the above points, that the asking price should be $whatever, not an additional charge if you use Goods and services etc-Post the price, not add 3% if you use this or that,-also shipping and Insurance should be included in the asking price (Example) You have a ASHBM and you asking $600, this includes PP, Shipping and Insurance-NOT Asking $600 PP gift and Friends or add 3% PP goods and Services Shipping will be extra-Just ask your price for PP goods and services and figure in all additional Costs-Period-Cheers fellas, and ladies
 
I have always left prices up after a sale. My opinion being that in knife and gun forums people on exchanges are looking for things that they would not necessarily plan on buying, but if they see something they always wanted and have the cash or "credit":o then some of us wouldn't mind a little research before we type the mystical magic words "I will take it". I know I always try to find what something went for, recently and sometimes it's hard when everybody takes prices down, and it's human nature to try and avoid overpaying and not wanting a bargain. I am just trying to help the next guy who is looking for his next purchase, and how else can you dream of your next purchase if you don't know how much to save up for.
That's just my take on it, things in common usually always sell at a ball park figure, sometimes you buy low, buy high.
Sell low, sell high. But it is always fun when you know you bought someting in the low margins.:)
 
The only reason I would ever take a price down would be that I was embarassed with how much money I lost on it. I've sold a couple knives way too low and I'm not proud of it. With that being said.. I don't plan on ever obscuring my price after I've sold a knife, it seems incredibly shady to me to do so.
 
I'm for keeping the price up. A fair deal requires both a knowledgeable seller and a knowledgeable buyer. :cool:
 
One other thought on deleting prices - if, as a seller, you are absolutely driven to remove your prices after a sale, at least have the courtesy to wait until you receive payment.
 
If I recall correctly, the whole removing prices started as a big trend with little wang. Of course, he was the biggest price gouger and did not want his prices to be compared. Before then it was was fairly common to leave prices up. I think leaving the prices is beneficial to the board as a whole, and to buyers.
 
grogimus said:
The only reason I would ever take a price down would be that I was embarassed with how much money I lost on it. I've sold a couple knives way too low and I'm not proud of it. With that being said.. I don't plan on ever obscuring my price after I've sold a knife, it seems incredibly shady to me to do so.
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You win some, you lose some, don't sweat it Brother .
 
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