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I thinks it's not the steel, HT or spyderco's quality. People has realize that most factory knives are sharpened using a continuous high speed belt that sometimes can and will produce burned, soft and over sharpened edge.
 
I'm sorry you possibly got a fake. It's happened to me before and it's an aweful experience. I was excited for my new knife and it was spoiled by doubt and fear that it was fake. And their similarity is getting insane so I was just really confused and conflicted for a few days. Finally broke down, returned it and spent a little extra on one from a dealer. It looked similar but in the hand feel and performance differences were night and day. It sucks that the pm2 is so heavily counterfeited.
 
ive practically abused a p2 doing linework and the edge held up better than that after a month.
 
I hope this works out for you...

I own six Spyderco knives. All have been purchased used....BUT I buy them from forum members who are collectors.

My advise as humble as it can be....buy from fellow forum enthusiasts....always ask for close up recent pix, negotiate a fair deal and enjoy an authentic product.
 
Does not sound probable to me...could this possibly be the lowly Chinese copy with less than sterling HT?
 
So what did Spyderco Warranty and Repair say about it when you contacted them?

What's that you say, you haven't contacted them yet? You decided to gripe to the whole world and condemn the entire brand before even attempting to allow the company to correct the problem? Or at least having them verify its authenticity, for a knife purchased on eBay, a place noted for fakes?

Your experience is not typical, but don't let that stop you from staying away.
 
The OP modified the knife (smoothing out the G10 and loosing the pivot) before ever cutting anything with it? Perhaps you damaged the blade and didn't notice....
You can't wear down the g10 with a few hand grabs and flicking at few times. It takes a long time to get the G10 to wear down without helping it with sandpaper or something else abrasive.

Further, Why would you need to check to see how the blade was holding up while cutting boxes? Usually behavior like that indicates you knew something was up with the blade before you started cutting or that the material you were actually cutting was not cardboard.

Did you use the knife a bit more than you let on or is perceived?

Benefit of the doubt I suppose. Never trust eBay I say.

Edited to be a bit nicer.
 
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i moved the knife in my hands until the g-10 wasn't so aggressive and im pretty sure loosing the pivot to a overly tightened knife wouldn't void the warranty
 
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And, I got some problems with your story here. You can't wear down the g10 with a few hand grabs and flicking at few times. It takes a long time to get the G10 to wear down without helping it out with sandpaper or something else abrasive.
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No doubt, There might be an explaination for the rest of the story, but not that.
I know 1st hand it takes much longer to show wear on even fine shallow G10 cuts.
 
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No doubt, There might be an explaination for the rest of the story, but not that.
I know 1st hand it takes much longer to show wear on even fine shallow G10 cuts.
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Ok, after reading my post I was a bit harsh, which part of is quoted above. I have edited to be a bit more diplomatic without sounding like it's an interrogation.

I totally agree though. My PM2 is a year old (in my pocket), use it every day almost, and it still feels rough to the hand. Also, it still cut like a laser and I've not sharpened it at all. Not even strop. Of course, I've only cut food, tape and cardboard, so these results are not typical if you use the blade for wood, hard plastics or other hard materials.
 
Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here, and call Fake. Here's why. As others have said, s30v is just not that soft, even if burned during final grind (sharpening).

Next, the plunge line and distance to actual sharpening looks much different than mine.

Also, my markings appear laser etched. Your Golden, Co, Earth almost looks stamped. Pic is not the best, but it almost appears as though there is a raised dimensional aspect the the text.

Next is the choil jimping. Not knowing how much variation there are from one unit of production to the next (guessing very little as so much is done with lasers, Mills, water jets, etc), but there seems to be a difference in my teeth, and what I see in the pictures. Mine are extremely sharp and with a slight angle to them.

And last, already been mentioned, but my sample has one of the smoothest actions I've ever had, or even seen, in this level/price of knife. Flys like a rocket.

So options, return it to seller and buy new one from authorized dealer. Or send it to Spyderco for them to authenticate and/or repair. If it's real, they would not want a lightly used model looking like that.

But if it's fake, surely you wouldn't judge an entire company on a possibly counterfeit product that they've never touched or authorized. In fact, if it happens to be counterfeit, a crime has actually been committed against both you AND Spyderco.

If it were me, I'd really want to know authenticity for sure. At least partially so I know I'm judging the right parties for the right reason. Of course all of this is just a guess as the pics are not the best and knife not right here.

Whether you love the PM2 or not, there is no denying that the quality is top rate.
 
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When making such accusations you need to provide better evidence, period.

From the poor pictures you have posted the jimping on the spine does not look like it is angled backwards. This would indicate a fake. You need to post better pictures to get an accurate assessment. Post pictures of the cut out for the lock. If it is smooth it will be real, more sharp, a fake. What does the milling on the liners look like? Stiff opening is also a sign of a fake.

Even from reputable dealers, fakes can be mixed in. I caught a fake at cabela's. Someone returned them knowingly. Also, name your ebay dealer. I have and have had a lot of S30v from spyderco and others. There is no way legit S30v would do what you describe. It is either a lemon but more likely a fake. G10 will not soften with such lite use either. The PM2 is the most faked knife from spyderco and ebay is they way they are sold off as legit the most.

What you have said here is very serious. I hope you will see this through and provide the information I am asking.
 
If you aren't able to return it or get the knife taken care of would you be willing to sharpen it and do a few more cardboard runs to see how the edge holds or doesn't hold?
 
Looks like he baited the Hook and everybody took it it Hook ~ Line & Sinker.! I have never had a Knife look like his with Spyderco's name on it & if I did the next step would be sending to Spyderco ( attention Sal ) in the mail for an explanation of said Knife instead of putting it in BF's !^^ Ya tinks maybe attention stepped in & got the best of 12-3 "maybe".??
ooops ~~ I mean 123
 
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