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Other recent conflicts from other religions?
There are some similarities in every case but also lots of differences.
Let's have a look at them below.
WW2 wasn't fought to bring Christianity to Poland or Russia or France or other nations who all were already Christians. Even in North Africa nobody was forced into Christianity or punished for worshipping wrongly.
Killing Jewish people sounds like religious motivation at first. But actually the common guy was made more scared of imagined Jewish conspiracies and power and money than of them worshipping the same god in a supposedly wrong way or other religious details. The leaders motivation was probably the same Angst or they were just out to get the Jewish money.
Did Japanese troops force any religion on China or try to convert Americans or punish non believers? Doubt it.
Also if in Guantanamo somebody pees on a quoran it's also not to convert that guy but to get back at a terrorist. Of course Isis will say we are out to get all Muslims.
Capitalism vs communism was more of a struggle between two ideologies, religions if you want to call it that but even there were not many super fanatics blowing themselves and others up for their "believes".
Nazis had some brain washed fanatics and means but lacked in connecting religiously or otherwise in new territories. Even in their own country they didn't do so well within traditional religions and even tried to abuse or weaken religions influence wherever possible.
Communism had the means to burn our planet but lacked in fanatics and religious power.
Isis has a religious connect in their territory, in new countries of that same religion and countries with immigrants of that religion. Although one might argue how strong that connection is, there is no denying it is there. That ensures a steady stream of misguided individuals to be used by them. Luckily so far they are lacking in means to do very serious damage. Once they aquire or even manufacture real superweapons they will be more willing to use them than Russians or Americans and more effective than Germans. Then it will get scary.
More effective than Germans? The damage Germans did in the US homeland was minimal. They just couldn't recruit "fellow christians" in the US. Because even if a guy might be crazy and of the same religion he would be first of all American and have no reason to work with some Nazis who were also Christians by coincidence.
Now there were fellow Nazis in the US but they were few had no weapons of mass destruction and most of them and all harmless Germans ended up in camps.
With many Muslims however there is an overarching connect to their religion which is stronger than loyalty to the "foreign" country they live in. In many cases religion is even more important than their own family members lives, especially women. If one of them is crazy he is much more likely to work for Isis than a crazy Christian to work for the Nazis.
While Isis focus on religion might be their strength at the moment it will be their downfall when they get bigger and try to spread to non Muslim countries. While you could convince any human quite easily of the benefits of a theoretical communist or capitalist paradise it will be a much harder sell to force non believers to pray multiple times a day, kill an honor less daughter or sacrifice ones life for a god who is to weak to fight himself.
Thus if they continue like this the lines will harden and a bigger conflict more likely and if that happens it's obvious who will win and which poor bastards will suffer the most.
To reduce risks of terrorism in our nonmuslim countries I see only 2 ways. Put them all in camps like the Americans with Japanese and German roots in WW2. Or make a huge effort of better integrating them into our societies so that all of them are first American, French, German, Spanish, British and only then Muslim.
So far Muslims often seem scared to me. Whenever I notice them in public places they appear in groups. Yesterday in Ikea there were about 10 muslim families. They had no interaction with each other but we're there at the same time. Quite unusual. It leads me to believe that they are on some mailing list and go to the same places at the same time to be safer from us. Especially after Paris some of them will get some hateful comments or worse.
If I would be in their shoes I would also look for strength in numbers. And of course that will lead them again to identify more with their religious fellows than with their country. This seems hard to overcome even with lots of extra love from our side.
:-(
There are some similarities in every case but also lots of differences.
Let's have a look at them below.
WW2 wasn't fought to bring Christianity to Poland or Russia or France or other nations who all were already Christians. Even in North Africa nobody was forced into Christianity or punished for worshipping wrongly.
Killing Jewish people sounds like religious motivation at first. But actually the common guy was made more scared of imagined Jewish conspiracies and power and money than of them worshipping the same god in a supposedly wrong way or other religious details. The leaders motivation was probably the same Angst or they were just out to get the Jewish money.
Did Japanese troops force any religion on China or try to convert Americans or punish non believers? Doubt it.
Also if in Guantanamo somebody pees on a quoran it's also not to convert that guy but to get back at a terrorist. Of course Isis will say we are out to get all Muslims.
Capitalism vs communism was more of a struggle between two ideologies, religions if you want to call it that but even there were not many super fanatics blowing themselves and others up for their "believes".
Nazis had some brain washed fanatics and means but lacked in connecting religiously or otherwise in new territories. Even in their own country they didn't do so well within traditional religions and even tried to abuse or weaken religions influence wherever possible.
Communism had the means to burn our planet but lacked in fanatics and religious power.
Isis has a religious connect in their territory, in new countries of that same religion and countries with immigrants of that religion. Although one might argue how strong that connection is, there is no denying it is there. That ensures a steady stream of misguided individuals to be used by them. Luckily so far they are lacking in means to do very serious damage. Once they aquire or even manufacture real superweapons they will be more willing to use them than Russians or Americans and more effective than Germans. Then it will get scary.
More effective than Germans? The damage Germans did in the US homeland was minimal. They just couldn't recruit "fellow christians" in the US. Because even if a guy might be crazy and of the same religion he would be first of all American and have no reason to work with some Nazis who were also Christians by coincidence.
Now there were fellow Nazis in the US but they were few had no weapons of mass destruction and most of them and all harmless Germans ended up in camps.
With many Muslims however there is an overarching connect to their religion which is stronger than loyalty to the "foreign" country they live in. In many cases religion is even more important than their own family members lives, especially women. If one of them is crazy he is much more likely to work for Isis than a crazy Christian to work for the Nazis.
While Isis focus on religion might be their strength at the moment it will be their downfall when they get bigger and try to spread to non Muslim countries. While you could convince any human quite easily of the benefits of a theoretical communist or capitalist paradise it will be a much harder sell to force non believers to pray multiple times a day, kill an honor less daughter or sacrifice ones life for a god who is to weak to fight himself.
Thus if they continue like this the lines will harden and a bigger conflict more likely and if that happens it's obvious who will win and which poor bastards will suffer the most.
To reduce risks of terrorism in our nonmuslim countries I see only 2 ways. Put them all in camps like the Americans with Japanese and German roots in WW2. Or make a huge effort of better integrating them into our societies so that all of them are first American, French, German, Spanish, British and only then Muslim.
So far Muslims often seem scared to me. Whenever I notice them in public places they appear in groups. Yesterday in Ikea there were about 10 muslim families. They had no interaction with each other but we're there at the same time. Quite unusual. It leads me to believe that they are on some mailing list and go to the same places at the same time to be safer from us. Especially after Paris some of them will get some hateful comments or worse.
If I would be in their shoes I would also look for strength in numbers. And of course that will lead them again to identify more with their religious fellows than with their country. This seems hard to overcome even with lots of extra love from our side.
:-(
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