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The package has arrived.
We need to be alone now.
We need to be alone now.
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Glad to hear it arrived safe.. Enjoy it... We wanna see pictures...
Pictures of the knife that is.
mymindisamob
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I called him just as he was opening this. I thought I got one of those 900 #s or something. I'm not sure I want pictures of that moment.
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Nate,
Just checking in to see if you have spent any quality time with the SHBA???
dave
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He's still behind closed doors... "Quality" time doesn't quite explain it. Watch for the video to come out on DVD next month.
Seriously Nate.. How goes it??
Seriously Nate.. How goes it??
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It goes well.
I am a bit bothered by the fact that there are none of these on the market. It really is a tough blade that is well thought out. A design that was well ahead of it's time, or maybe it's time for some more of these on the market.
I guess in the next couple of business days we will have to part ways.
Later.
I am a bit bothered by the fact that there are none of these on the market. It really is a tough blade that is well thought out. A design that was well ahead of it's time, or maybe it's time for some more of these on the market.
I guess in the next couple of business days we will have to part ways.
Later.
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Nate,
We need pics. :thumbup:
Have you gone back into hiding????
Hope your not too attached to it, I mean I do want it back sometime.
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Here's my two cents.
Let me say which midsized knives I have that I was able to compare this knife to. I have the BATAC TAC with mag scales, I have an Ergo-Badger, and LMRM, not extensice, but a something to compare it to. My opinion is that of the newer knives on the market the one most similar in size to the SHBA is the LMRM, the other Badgers seem to have gotten bigger with time.
I really like the SHBA, it is a nice compact knife that packs quite a punch. I hear that this particular knife is fatter than most, so that may have a quite a bit to do with it.
I liked the way the knife handles and the way that the blade is shaped makes it very usefull, every once in a while I find a knife with a blade shape that just doesn't quite work for me and this ain't one of them.
I was very pleased with this knife and have only one question.
Where do I get one?
And BTW have you guys ever seen one of these signs at your post office?
Only problem is that I work 6:00am to 4:30pm and am putting in six days a week right now.
Which left me with this for a back up plan.
That one car over there in the parking lot belongs to the postmaster, so fortunatley there was no line.
Any ways the knife is on it's way to Arizona, and some more abuse.
Let me say which midsized knives I have that I was able to compare this knife to. I have the BATAC TAC with mag scales, I have an Ergo-Badger, and LMRM, not extensice, but a something to compare it to. My opinion is that of the newer knives on the market the one most similar in size to the SHBA is the LMRM, the other Badgers seem to have gotten bigger with time.
I really like the SHBA, it is a nice compact knife that packs quite a punch. I hear that this particular knife is fatter than most, so that may have a quite a bit to do with it.
I liked the way the knife handles and the way that the blade is shaped makes it very usefull, every once in a while I find a knife with a blade shape that just doesn't quite work for me and this ain't one of them.
I was very pleased with this knife and have only one question.
Where do I get one?
And BTW have you guys ever seen one of these signs at your post office?
Only problem is that I work 6:00am to 4:30pm and am putting in six days a week right now.
Which left me with this for a back up plan.
That one car over there in the parking lot belongs to the postmaster, so fortunatley there was no line.
Any ways the knife is on it's way to Arizona, and some more abuse.
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The building that the post office is in also has a small store, there is a refrigerator with some sodas, beer and candy bars, and a rack with some chips, the store is seperated from the post office by a hallway. The postmaster locks the door to the post office and walks down the hallway evertime someone rings the buzzer at the door of the store. She then adds up the purchase on a calculator and pulls the lever on her cash register to open the cash box up, and make change.
This what the inside of the post office looks like. The edge of the poster in the first pic is the far left poster in the second pic, and there is a small table next to the chair. I think there is enough room in there for all of the boxholders to show up and check there mail at the same time.
This what the inside of the post office looks like. The edge of the poster in the first pic is the far left poster in the second pic, and there is a small table next to the chair. I think there is enough room in there for all of the boxholders to show up and check there mail at the same time.
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Gerry,
Maybe we should skip you after a post like this:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488898
Just teasing.
The SHBA is on it's way to "On The Edge" and then you're up.
dave
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Well, I finally got my chance to put Daves SHBA fatty through its paces, at least a little. I know a lot of folks may be wondering about how it compares to another knife I havenamely my SHBA Apprentice in A2 that I picked up from PG. Below are some pics and stats of how these two blades compare. Included is my ABA (LE???) as well.
The SHBA feels great in hand, very sure. I attribute this not only to the shape of the handle, but also to its balance point, which is @ 1 back from the front of the micarta. This is also about where the balance point is on my ABA, while the SHBA-Ap is slightly more forward (which is no surprise given that the handle is only wrapped).
I had the knife last weekend and was hoping to use it on a hike, but frankly ran into a severe weather issue. Still, back at the house, I grabbed a log of mesquite (I think) and tried a little baton action. I consider the wood to have been quite hard, but it was no match for the SHBA. Because my SHBA-Ap has a swedge on it, I did not attempt to baton with it. Here, the SHBA is certainly better suited.
In the kitchen, the SHBA did better than I expected. In a little zucchini and squash cutting drill in preparation for dinner, I was expecting that it would not cut very thinly, or at least it would tend to break the vegetable in half before completing the cut due to its thickness. Well, I was wrong on both counts. The two SHBAs could routinely make slices no more than 1/16 thick. The ABA could go even thinner and with less effort, but that was no surprise given the thinner blade. Here is a quick pic of the end result just prior to cook time.
Today, I was able to get out a try the SHBA a little more. Thankfully, the weather was not an issue today. However, my POS digital camera left something to be desired as you shall see.
Here is where I was, at least part of it.
I did try chopping a little with the SHBA and came to an immediate conclusionshe is no chopper (duh!). Its somewhat deceptive because her weight makes one feel like she would be ok at it, but that weight is mostly in your hand sue to the balance point. I tried holding on to her with just two fingers, and that was somewhat better, but it also felt much more insecure in hand. What she really needed was enough of a lanyard coming through the thong-hole that I could put my wrist through it in order to be sure the knife wasnt going to be accidentally flying through the air. Oh well, any 5 blade is not going to be a chopper anyway, LOL.
The other thing I tried to do with her was make a fuzz stick, or feather stick. She was not to bad at it, definitely manageable, but her size, thickness, and weight require that one puts forth more effort than perhaps they are used to. Below are two pics, the first done with the SHBA and the second done with the very thin blade on my Swisstool Spirit S. Yes, I know that is not fair, but I wanted to see how they compared.
And lastly, a pic that is disappointing. You may say, Wheres the Badger? It is barely visible in the middle of that big log. Besides hoping for a nice pic, I was hoping to be able to show some blade penetration. Its hard to recall, but one stab (no baton) with her sunk her pretty deeply into that log. I was very surprised at this, as the wood was fairly hard.
And I dont have a pic, but I also stuck her point first into the top of a barrel cactus, Barrel cacti hold a lot of water and can be life savers if you get in trouble in the desert, but my prior experiences with them have been that they have very tough exteriors for a lot of knives. Again, the SHBA shined here, and I am confident it could complete the job if I needed it to.
In the end, I think the SHBA is a nice knife. I dont think it would necessarily be the best choice for bushcraft or detailed woodwork; IMHO, there are others that would be better choices to do those jobs. Nevertheless, it is at least good or better in just about everything I tried to use it for. And I suspect it would be very good in some harder use applications that I did not try. While I think it would make short work of accessing canned goods and would be great at prying if asked to do so, I did not try these things out as she isnt mine. And aside from the shape and feel of the handle, I would say the other very strong plus about this knife is the tip strength and profile. As I said before, it easily handled penetrating some things to an extent that other knives have had much more difficulty doing.
If youve read this far, let me just say a big THANK YOU!!! to Dave for the passaround, and especially for including me in it. The SHBAs are very difficult to come by, and I appreciate the opportunity to use one and learn more about this dare I say legendary Busse knife.
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SHBA (A2) SHBA-Ap (A2) ABA (INFI)
OAL 9-15/16 9-6/16 9-12/16
Blade length 4-13/16 4-14/16 4-10/16
Handle length 5-2/16 4-8/16 5-2/16
Edge length 4-7/16 4-8/16 4-1/16
Thickness .285 .285 .15
Max. blade width 1.41 1.42 1.29
Weight 13.1 oz 10.0 oz 7.2 ozThe SHBA feels great in hand, very sure. I attribute this not only to the shape of the handle, but also to its balance point, which is @ 1 back from the front of the micarta. This is also about where the balance point is on my ABA, while the SHBA-Ap is slightly more forward (which is no surprise given that the handle is only wrapped).
I had the knife last weekend and was hoping to use it on a hike, but frankly ran into a severe weather issue. Still, back at the house, I grabbed a log of mesquite (I think) and tried a little baton action. I consider the wood to have been quite hard, but it was no match for the SHBA. Because my SHBA-Ap has a swedge on it, I did not attempt to baton with it. Here, the SHBA is certainly better suited.
In the kitchen, the SHBA did better than I expected. In a little zucchini and squash cutting drill in preparation for dinner, I was expecting that it would not cut very thinly, or at least it would tend to break the vegetable in half before completing the cut due to its thickness. Well, I was wrong on both counts. The two SHBAs could routinely make slices no more than 1/16 thick. The ABA could go even thinner and with less effort, but that was no surprise given the thinner blade. Here is a quick pic of the end result just prior to cook time.
Today, I was able to get out a try the SHBA a little more. Thankfully, the weather was not an issue today. However, my POS digital camera left something to be desired as you shall see.
Here is where I was, at least part of it.
I did try chopping a little with the SHBA and came to an immediate conclusionshe is no chopper (duh!). Its somewhat deceptive because her weight makes one feel like she would be ok at it, but that weight is mostly in your hand sue to the balance point. I tried holding on to her with just two fingers, and that was somewhat better, but it also felt much more insecure in hand. What she really needed was enough of a lanyard coming through the thong-hole that I could put my wrist through it in order to be sure the knife wasnt going to be accidentally flying through the air. Oh well, any 5 blade is not going to be a chopper anyway, LOL.
The other thing I tried to do with her was make a fuzz stick, or feather stick. She was not to bad at it, definitely manageable, but her size, thickness, and weight require that one puts forth more effort than perhaps they are used to. Below are two pics, the first done with the SHBA and the second done with the very thin blade on my Swisstool Spirit S. Yes, I know that is not fair, but I wanted to see how they compared.
And lastly, a pic that is disappointing. You may say, Wheres the Badger? It is barely visible in the middle of that big log. Besides hoping for a nice pic, I was hoping to be able to show some blade penetration. Its hard to recall, but one stab (no baton) with her sunk her pretty deeply into that log. I was very surprised at this, as the wood was fairly hard.
And I dont have a pic, but I also stuck her point first into the top of a barrel cactus, Barrel cacti hold a lot of water and can be life savers if you get in trouble in the desert, but my prior experiences with them have been that they have very tough exteriors for a lot of knives. Again, the SHBA shined here, and I am confident it could complete the job if I needed it to.
In the end, I think the SHBA is a nice knife. I dont think it would necessarily be the best choice for bushcraft or detailed woodwork; IMHO, there are others that would be better choices to do those jobs. Nevertheless, it is at least good or better in just about everything I tried to use it for. And I suspect it would be very good in some harder use applications that I did not try. While I think it would make short work of accessing canned goods and would be great at prying if asked to do so, I did not try these things out as she isnt mine. And aside from the shape and feel of the handle, I would say the other very strong plus about this knife is the tip strength and profile. As I said before, it easily handled penetrating some things to an extent that other knives have had much more difficulty doing.
If youve read this far, let me just say a big THANK YOU!!! to Dave for the passaround, and especially for including me in it. The SHBAs are very difficult to come by, and I appreciate the opportunity to use one and learn more about this dare I say legendary Busse knife.
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Yep, it's likely going to happen. Lets say the knife had a satin finish, or maybe even was cold-blued. What do you think would look good? Desert Ironwood with mosaic pins??? Something else??? Anyone who has any ideas... give 'em up!
I'd go with some hand shaped G-10 of whatever color combo you like, maybe green linen hand shaped....SNAKESKIN like Dave said.....or Cocobolo would be SWEET!!! Maybe Maple Burl....Snakewood.....the possibilities are endless...out of wood, one of the toughest in terms of stregnth and weathering that I've heard of is Lignum Vitae....Meaning "Long Life" in Latin. It was used as bearings in blast doors on the old bombers in WW2.