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Awesome,
Thanks for letting us newbies try the old school beauties.
Zach
Thanks for letting us newbies try the old school beauties.
Zach
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Well in all honesty. I have been so busy I have not even dug through the bubble wrap. Hopefully I get a few minutes this weekend.
Zach
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So I finally got these out last night. Both are nothing short of amazing. The SHBA would probably be my favorite Busse that has come through my hands. The hand ground smooth pin handle is so comfortable. It is a thick little beast but has a wonderful flat grind. I am not sure if the finish is just worn off or if it is just naturally patina finished but I love it. Is the SHBA A2 or INFI? The difference between these hand done knives and the CNC versions is amazing. I love both but I really appreciate the work put into these.
Here are a few quick pics. My daughter wanted to compare it against her cupidivore! Dont show any mothers this thread!!!
Thanks,
Zach
Here are a few quick pics. My daughter wanted to compare it against her cupidivore! Dont show any mothers this thread!!!
Thanks,
Zach
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DAMN!
I totally just lost a long post with a bunch of pics!
Oh well, gonna make it quicker.
The knife came. Feels great in the hand. Nice sheath, looks like an Okuden sheath to me (never owned one, but that was my first thought).
This knife is a user for sure. Here are the "as received pics."
Packed well.
The edge had some rock rash in a few spots.
Other side
There is a ding on the spine on the right side looking from the top. Looks like a rock smack.
The edge toward the tip was a bit uneven on one side. Looks like a higher bevel and then a back bevel. More pronounced on one side.
I love the rope cut handles. I would like to see this as an option on all knives. So comfy in the hand (albeit with no chopping yet).
Overall, very impressed with the feel in the hand. Very different than Ash1CG that I have owned and used. The shape of the handles is flat, with a bit of contour, but fits the hand well.
I will try to get some real use later in the week, and give more feedback.
I totally just lost a long post with a bunch of pics!
Oh well, gonna make it quicker.
The knife came. Feels great in the hand. Nice sheath, looks like an Okuden sheath to me (never owned one, but that was my first thought).
This knife is a user for sure. Here are the "as received pics."
Packed well.
The edge had some rock rash in a few spots.
Other side
There is a ding on the spine on the right side looking from the top. Looks like a rock smack.
The edge toward the tip was a bit uneven on one side. Looks like a higher bevel and then a back bevel. More pronounced on one side.
I love the rope cut handles. I would like to see this as an option on all knives. So comfy in the hand (albeit with no chopping yet).
Overall, very impressed with the feel in the hand. Very different than Ash1CG that I have owned and used. The shape of the handles is flat, with a bit of contour, but fits the hand well.
I will try to get some real use later in the week, and give more feedback.
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I've got a tank buster I'd send someone to try out if I could try out a heavy chopper. I need a chopper and I'd like to avoid spending $10,000 "experimenting" to find the best one for me.
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nice , i just saw big s pics. looks like a beast cant wait for the use photos and thoughts and finally to hold it in hand, man im excited. nice pics bigfattyt setting the bar high for the rest of us i see 
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Wow, that's very cool of you folks to pass around some historically awesome blades. As for me, I'd be too ooked out as a newbie with little $$$ to speak of, in case anything happened in transit. Love to see the pics, though. Thanks for posting them up.
My 1st Busse should be delivered tomorrow (SAR3), so while that might not make me an uber-HOG, I can at least legitimately appreciate the camaraderie. Rock on, gents.
My 1st Busse should be delivered tomorrow (SAR3), so while that might not make me an uber-HOG, I can at least legitimately appreciate the camaraderie. Rock on, gents.
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So luckily I did a bit of chopping on Friday because I burned my hand this morning! Stubbed my toe on the corner of the sink counter, and planted my hand on my wife's hot curling iron. My chopping hand!
But I did get some pics of some chopping Thursday. You will have to forgive the pics, these are phone, as that was all I had at that time.
I compared a SarQ, the SHSH, and a Condor Hudson Bay, as these were three that were relative in blade length, but not thickness.
Chopped a bit on a small log. I did not resharpen the knife before chopping. I figured I would take the existing dings out after.
The SHSH chopped better than I expected, even with the dull edge and some rock rash on the edge.
This was the SARQ. It has a sharp polished convex.
On the Right is the notch from the SarQ, and on the left was the notch from the SHSH.
Here is the Hudson Bay from Condor. This is the older version that came coated. I stripped it and did a vinegar patina, and took the convex edge up higher. I mostly use it in the kitchen. The handle is a bit short for all out chopping. It makes a great kitchen knife. Enough Knuckle clearance for cutting on the board. The steel is lowly 1075 or 1065 if I remember correctly, but the edge retention is not too bad for the price! With a tiny bit more handle, it would be even better. I want one a bit taller in the blade, a bit longer, and with more handle out of INFI!!!!! Like a Monster Muck!!!!!
Time to Baton the Big Stick!
Took a bit of whacking, but I got it through.
Overall impression in actual use. The SHSH is more capable and comfortable for chopping than I expected based on the Ash1CG. The extra blade length helps. For some reason, the handle actually felt more "roomy" than the Ash1CG. I think the dimensions are the same? Maybe it was the thinner rope cut handle that made the difference. Or the stripped handle. The finish on the coated CG was rougher before I stripped it on my Ash1CG and that might have contributed to "pinky bite" feel.
The thickness felt just right for this size blade. Heavy enough to chop decent for its size, but not too heavy. It felt better balanced for choppingthan the Ash1CG, but I did not have them side to side to compare.
The knife felt great overall. The round pommel made for more comfortable carry than the birds beak pommel style from the stand point of banging your elbow on it while carrying. The trade off is that you can't move your grip back with the pinky on the other side of the newer "birds beak" style.
Sent this on on to the next gentleman on the list.
Huge thanks to Mulder for another great oldie to try out.
I fixed the edge rock rash and rolls. Put a decent edge back on with some sandpaper, then strop (while removing as little metal as possible, as per Mulder's request).
But I did get some pics of some chopping Thursday. You will have to forgive the pics, these are phone, as that was all I had at that time.
I compared a SarQ, the SHSH, and a Condor Hudson Bay, as these were three that were relative in blade length, but not thickness.
Chopped a bit on a small log. I did not resharpen the knife before chopping. I figured I would take the existing dings out after.
The SHSH chopped better than I expected, even with the dull edge and some rock rash on the edge.
This was the SARQ. It has a sharp polished convex.
On the Right is the notch from the SarQ, and on the left was the notch from the SHSH.
Here is the Hudson Bay from Condor. This is the older version that came coated. I stripped it and did a vinegar patina, and took the convex edge up higher. I mostly use it in the kitchen. The handle is a bit short for all out chopping. It makes a great kitchen knife. Enough Knuckle clearance for cutting on the board. The steel is lowly 1075 or 1065 if I remember correctly, but the edge retention is not too bad for the price! With a tiny bit more handle, it would be even better. I want one a bit taller in the blade, a bit longer, and with more handle out of INFI!!!!! Like a Monster Muck!!!!!
Time to Baton the Big Stick!
Took a bit of whacking, but I got it through.
Overall impression in actual use. The SHSH is more capable and comfortable for chopping than I expected based on the Ash1CG. The extra blade length helps. For some reason, the handle actually felt more "roomy" than the Ash1CG. I think the dimensions are the same? Maybe it was the thinner rope cut handle that made the difference. Or the stripped handle. The finish on the coated CG was rougher before I stripped it on my Ash1CG and that might have contributed to "pinky bite" feel.
The thickness felt just right for this size blade. Heavy enough to chop decent for its size, but not too heavy. It felt better balanced for choppingthan the Ash1CG, but I did not have them side to side to compare.
The knife felt great overall. The round pommel made for more comfortable carry than the birds beak pommel style from the stand point of banging your elbow on it while carrying. The trade off is that you can't move your grip back with the pinky on the other side of the newer "birds beak" style.
Sent this on on to the next gentleman on the list.
Huge thanks to Mulder for another great oldie to try out.
I fixed the edge rock rash and rolls. Put a decent edge back on with some sandpaper, then strop (while removing as little metal as possible, as per Mulder's request).
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Welcome. You will enjoy the SAR3. A great small fixed blade with a stout grind.
The thought of pass arounds getting lost is worry some! I would basically have to sell some of my other knives and cover it out of pocket, which would really hurt.
I try to be very careful in the shipping dept. Make sure you do full insurance and signature required!
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thanks for those pics and that great review man, very well done. your phone takes pretty decent pics.
luke
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First off: Thanks to Mulder for the opportunity to check out this SHBA in person!
My first impression with this knife upon picking it up was: It's perfect, it melts right into your hand... I gotta get one.
The SHBA is handle heavy so the blade disappears. I'd say it compares well to a BATACLE/SE in this regard. I love the feeling of it: just screams "Lightsaber!"
In use however it turns out I really prefer a more open ended handle design. The hilt wraps around too for forward and eats my pinkie. It also didn't allow me to get a more choked back grip, or any other grip, when my hand got tired of holding it. I've stayed away from the Fusion handle design for the same reason, but the hilt on the SHBA looked smaller and more workable.
One of the things I really liked about the SHBA, and the Boss Street and Boss Jack, is how close the grip places your forefinger next to the cutting edge. This is in contrast to the TAC handle design that gives a grip which is further back. This probably explains why I went choilless with the BJ even though I liked the choil with the SJTAC. One of the other reasons I liked the SHBA was how wide the slabs were across the palm (it's nearly square around the handle). You can see how exaggerated the slabs are on the spine shot- they taper dramatically to lock in the forefinger for a solid grip.
As long as you can hold the SHBA in the one position the entire time you're working with it, it's great... but after an hour of stir-fry prep work and then some "whittling" in front of the fire with a glass of Bookers after dinner I was looking for a different way to grab it. For the record, a reverse grip with blade out is just as comfortable as normal grip. My pos camera doesn't do night pics well....still waiting on a Nikon 3100
I had no problems with edge retention with the A2 steel, and the drop point is well below the handle mid-line so it was very controllable while stabbing things.
I previously posted that I would like to see the SHBA come back in the Light Brigade line and I would, but the pinkie killer would need to be tamed- maybe a NM treatment would do the trick....and I'd probably eliminate the elf choil too...or make it as small as possible.
My first impression with this knife upon picking it up was: It's perfect, it melts right into your hand... I gotta get one.
The SHBA is handle heavy so the blade disappears. I'd say it compares well to a BATACLE/SE in this regard. I love the feeling of it: just screams "Lightsaber!"
In use however it turns out I really prefer a more open ended handle design. The hilt wraps around too for forward and eats my pinkie. It also didn't allow me to get a more choked back grip, or any other grip, when my hand got tired of holding it. I've stayed away from the Fusion handle design for the same reason, but the hilt on the SHBA looked smaller and more workable.
One of the things I really liked about the SHBA, and the Boss Street and Boss Jack, is how close the grip places your forefinger next to the cutting edge. This is in contrast to the TAC handle design that gives a grip which is further back. This probably explains why I went choilless with the BJ even though I liked the choil with the SJTAC. One of the other reasons I liked the SHBA was how wide the slabs were across the palm (it's nearly square around the handle). You can see how exaggerated the slabs are on the spine shot- they taper dramatically to lock in the forefinger for a solid grip.
As long as you can hold the SHBA in the one position the entire time you're working with it, it's great... but after an hour of stir-fry prep work and then some "whittling" in front of the fire with a glass of Bookers after dinner I was looking for a different way to grab it. For the record, a reverse grip with blade out is just as comfortable as normal grip. My pos camera doesn't do night pics well....still waiting on a Nikon 3100
I had no problems with edge retention with the A2 steel, and the drop point is well below the handle mid-line so it was very controllable while stabbing things.
I previously posted that I would like to see the SHBA come back in the Light Brigade line and I would, but the pinkie killer would need to be tamed- maybe a NM treatment would do the trick....and I'd probably eliminate the elf choil too...or make it as small as possible.
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Those are both really awesome shots. Is there any chance that you have one of the satin jack and the boss jack fully in view?