Pics or Knockoffs ???

[Charlie Mike]

I think buying knock offs are a lot like masturbation. It might get the job done, but it aint as good as the real thing. YMMV

This is sig line worthy!

 

[shaneinhisroom]

Yes, far to often

I agree you CAN buy any knife you want if you save up long enough. But I think most people want to buy other stuff as well and knife collection is just one of their hobby's.
I rather buy a new graphics card plus portable hard drive for instance then a $300 knife. Even if I really really like the knife.

This is when buying a similar design but with less quality material is a good alternative.

Well in that case it's a case of priorities. I would agree with you on that, but it can be reversed if you know nothing about graphics cards but want a good knife. For example, I don't do much gaming anymore so I'm fine with a Radeon 9600, but I do a lot of hiking and camping so I need a sturdy, reliable knife. Priorities.

 

[artmichalek]

I would feel like an idiot if I bought the "real deal" instead of the value for your money "knock off".

The key here is that "value for your money" means different things to different people and whether or not the knockoff is a better value than the original depends on a lot of factors. All of my knives are tools first, so they've got to do the job. If the knockoff is made of a truly inferior material or has a lock that I don't trust, then no price differential makes it a value for me. I also draw the line between similar designs and flat out fakes. Knives are simple enough that different makers are bound to end up with the same shapes now and then, but anyone who would put someone else's name on a knife can't be trusted to stand behind it.

 

[bld522]

the schrade on the other hand may have a hollow handle but lacks the high quality steel, craftsmanship, F&F, etc.

Actually I was quite favorably impressed with the Schrade's alloy (1070), craftsmanship, F&F, etc. I was also impressed with the reviews I read about the knife's performance. And that was BEFORE I factored in the knife's price.

If you can afford cheaper knockoffs, you can afford the real deal.

Perhaps. But I'm a sucker for a bargain if a product meets my criteria.

if you buy a schrade one piece made form 440A and expect it to perform like a CRK that is unrealistic.

I couldn't agree with you more. Fortunately, Schrade doesn't make a one piece out of 440A. If they did, I wouldn't buy it. They make their one piece knives out of 1070.

I have no desire for wall hangers that are junk.

Neither do I. Once again, for the record, my criteria in buying knockoffs is two fold:

1. I won't buy junk.

2. I won't buy a counterfeit knife.

Everything else is fair game.

It's about being smart with your money and making an informed purchase.

It certainly is.

The key here is that "value for your money" means different things to different people and whether or not the knockoff is a better value than the original depends on a lot of factors.

I agree. And I acknowledge you for recognizing the possibility that the knockoff could be a better value than the original.

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[gundude73]

even 1070, that isnt great, even that wont compete with A2, i guess it is your call. but if i was you i would get the CRK now if possible, they will only go up in price, because they were discontinued.

and once you have seen/held the real deal the decision will seem obvious.

 

[The Government]

If I want an original knife, a knockoff will not be a substitute for it. Wanting an original implies wanting everything the original comes with, including quality materials and craftsmanship. If you desire a cheap knife -then there is no problem in buying one whether it is a knockoff or not (ethics aside).

In the knife world, I define a knockoff knife as a product that copies an original knife but with a significantly lower cost structure. The costs are set to be so low that the new product is a skeleton of a substitute -at best, and most likely not a substitute at all. Since I don't see them as substitutes, they would never satisfy my desire to have the original. In other words, they could only satisfy my desire to have a cheap knife.

The fact that a knockoff mimics an original design does not sway me to buy a knockoff either. If the knockoff was very well made then it could appeal to me, but not because it looks like an original. If it was well made, then I would assume that it is going to be in the upper level of knockoffs and entering the level of well made knives at the $15-$30 price range -once I am in that range I am going to be buying from well known companies that make good knives guaranteed.

 

[3Guardsmen]

Wow, is it your time of the month or something?

My "time of the month?" No, ignorance just annoys me.

Unless the point buried in that post was to indicate that that particular Cold Steel knife was not a cheap rip-off at all and was in fact a totally wholesome, legit, original design, and therefore I was incorrect to liken my search for one to the purchasing of knockoff designs......

I wouldn't exactly call it "buried," but yeah, that was my point. I'm glad you were able to uncover it.

 

[bld522]

If it was well made, then I would assume that it is going to be in the upper level of knockoffs and entering the level of well made knives at the $15-$30 price range -once I am in that range I am going to be buying from well known companies that make good knives guaranteed.

Good point. "Knockoff" does not necessarily mean "cheap" or "poorly made". The Schrade SCHF2 integral costs $50.00 street. It's neither cheap nor poorly made. And when it's released, the Boker Plus Kressler Big Bear collaboration will probably run upwards of $150.00 street. I expect it to be extremely well made.

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[JBC6650]

I own 2 "knockoff knives" At the time of buying I didn't know they were knockoffs.

I bought them secondhand at a craigslist type website.
The other one is an imitation Magnum with a Böker Arbolito logo on it.

It's rock solid, a nice little blade and I can't really find any fault in this knife.

Would I buy them again knowing that they were knockoffs? Nope.

Do I have a big problem with them being knockoffs? Not really.

I one of the Klotzli's (I had two) to my dad....he couldn't be happier with it.

I've had a Sanrenmu 710 It's a cool little knife. Do i pretend it's a Sebenza? Nope. Do I like the way it looks? Yup. Do I find it funny that what Chris Reeve charges $350 for I can buy the almost exact thing except for the material specs? Offcourse.

Cheap design copies have their place in the market just like anything else. I have no problem buying them as long as I know what I'm getting into. (Offcourse I'd have been happier if the Klötzli had turned out to be a real one that I got for a very low price. but hey, c'est la vie)

Boker makes/imports the Magnum line, so it's not really a knock off just the cheap line of the company. I have the same knife branded as a Sarge knife and like it a lot.