Poll: Requirements for the new group! New requirement added!

[JuJu-]

Hey everyone, We would like to know what everyone thinks about the requirements for joining the the new group we putting together. Please take the time to vote for what requirements you think we should use. Remember this is for the kershaw/Zt (Kai) subforum here on Blade forums. If you do not plan on becoming part of it, We ask you to please not vote as to not skew the majority opinion. We want to know what those that are planing on joining think.

We are doing this to gauge majority opinion, requirements may vary from poll results. This is to get a feel for what YOU want!

1.For post total that is total on Blade forums.
2.For posts of significance that is for the Kershaw sub-forum
3. For threads started that is for the Kershaw sub-forum. Complaint threads DO NOT COUNT!

We are going to try and come up with a moniker depending if you own or fulfill the requirements for kershaws Or ZT
This means you do not have to pwn both. You can only pwn kershaw and still be a member!

By popular demand! I am puting this up here. If you like this idea instead of a the ones above simply say so by copying it your post or saying Saying points based system. I can't figure out for the life of me how to change the poll or if it is even possible!

Score 10 points:
1 point for every 5 Kershaws owned.
1 point for every 1 ZT owned.
1 point for every modified Kershaw/ZT owned.
1 point for every "Knife of the Year" owned.
1 point for every year of BF membership.
1 point for every 200 posts.
1 point for every 50 posts in the Kershaw section.
1 point for every 10 threads started in the Kershaw section.
1 point for a recommendation from a current club member.
1 point for a paid BF membership.
2 points for a gold BF membership.
3 points for visiting the Kershaw factory.

 

[JuJu-]

If you have any other ideas you think we should consider, please let us know!

 

[bdmicarta]

My suggestion- allow people who own Kershaw OR ZT, but don't require that they own both.

 

[mqqn]

I don't know about the started thread requirement - I see some other groups that have that requirement and it drives a lot of what I consider to be "content deprived" posting.

I think the group should be to promote the interest in the collecting and admiration of the companies products, both vintage and current.

In my opinion, the more the merrier.

best

mqqn

 

[knife2Agunfight]

I don't know about the started thread requirement - I see some other groups that have that requirement and it drives a lot of what I consider to be "content deprived" posting.

I think the group should be to promote the interest in the collecting and admiration of the companies products, both vintage and current.

In my opinion, the more the merrier.

best

mqqn

:thumbup:

 

[solidorange]

I still think we should go with something like this:

For determining membership, I vote for some kind of point system with several options. For example:

Score 10 points:
1 point for every 5 Kershaws owned.
1 point for every 3 ZT's owned.
1 point for every modified Kershaw/ZT owned.
1 point for every "Knife of the Year" owned.
1 point for every year of BF membership.
1 point for every 200 posts.
1 point for every 50 posts in the Kershaw section.
1 point for every 10 threads started in the Kershaw section.
1 point for a recommendation from a current club member.
1 point for a paid BF membership.
2 points for a gold BF membership.
3 points for visiting the Kershaw factory.

etc.

 

[Black samurai]

In all honesty, the idea of having a group that associates with owning a zt or a kershaw etc, is a great idea. But from viewing this pole everybody in this forum could be considered a member. I mean how hard is it to own only one zt and just a couple of kershaws, simple. I think this group should be something special, something to be proud of. Not saying that I wouldn't perticipate or nothing, just would like to see something different from what we already have, you know up the ante but not too outrageous. Just make it something to work towards like some of the more veteran collectors have done. I myself still have a long way to go with this hobby. Lets make this group interesting.

 

[Black samurai]

I still think we should go with something like this:

This is a good idea

 

[Black samurai]

For determining membership, I vote for some kind of point system with several options. For example:

Score 10 points:
1 point for every 5 Kershaws owned.
1 point for every 3 ZT's owned.
1 point for every modified Kershaw/ZT owned.
1 point for every "Knife of the Year" owned.
1 point for every year of BF membership.
1 point for every 200 posts.
1 point for every 50 posts in the Kershaw section.
1 point for every 10 threads started in the Kershaw section.
1 point for a recommendation from a current club member.
1 point for a paid BF membership.
2 points for a gold BF membership.
3 points for visiting the Kershaw factory.

etc.
This is a good idea

 

[oregonknifenerd]

I agree on throwing out the started thread count. I think I'm up to 3? I'd have to look. But of those 3, one was a give-away.
I'd say 35 posts in the sub-forum. Who cares about how many you post anywhere else and drop the started threads requirement completely. I'd also raise the requirement to 5 Kershaws or 2 ZT or combination where 1 ZT = 2 Kershaws, but make this a honor system requirement so we aren't flooded with "look at my 3 Crowns" posts but that the number is somewhat significant.

Even at 5 Kershaws, the barrier to entry is about $25 worth of Little Lockbacks. Would you want to throw someone out that owns a SW Tilt, a DLC Tilt and 0777 but let someone in who bought a couple of Tremors on a sale a day site? By making it an honor system you include everyone and allow them to use their best judgement to determine if they are full-filling the spirit of the requirement even if they don't quite meet the numeric requirement.

The honor system method also throws out the requirement of "3 Kershaws AND a camera". Is it fair if someone has a collection of 100 knives but doesn't have a digital camera?

I'm also completely opposed to having a "Fan #000" and the exclusionary elitism this causes. If people want they can use a join date/member since.

The whole point of this should be to show that we love the brand, have some brand loyalty, and to promote that brand not as a measuring stick of who loves KAI the most and should get special favors. [Unless I'm #1 ] There are a lot of people that have come and gone before us and a number of people that lurked for years and may still be lurking but haven't decided to post or create an account. Some people due to circumstances in their lives may have had to sell off once great collections. Maybe to feed their family, maybe to buy grinders and tools to start their own knife production company. We want to encourage their activity, not discourage it further.

I also hate to see this become a turf war type thing. Where Kershaw goons aren't wanted in the Spyderco forums or the other way around. The best way to know Kershaw is the best is by experiencing other knives and the customer service from other companies and comparing them to the great CS and knives we all love from KAI.

I know I'm not the most succinct, but I suppose I can summarize this. I agree with the sentiment and what we are trying to create here but I'm apprehensive of what it will become in practice.

 

[acourvil]

Could some one tell me what problem is being addressed by the proposed requirements?

If these requirements are implemented, how does a new member ever gain admission (i.e, if someone is not a member, how can they accumulate any required number of posts)?

 

[2 shot]

Could some one tell me what problem is being addressed by the proposed requirements?

If these requirements are implemented, how does a new member ever gain admission (i.e, if someone is not a member, how can they accumulate any required number of posts)?

My understanding is the forum stays the same anyone can participate. The group is its own entity separate from the forum, its just a group of KAI enthusiasts.

 

[Black samurai]

Just want it to be more than another forum like group catered to any and everyone. Being apart of this group wouldn't separate us from what we have in this forum. So new members of bf can still be associated with. But by having a group that requires certain standards would not only gain a respect for the group but build value to owning the knives we rave about and collect

 

[solidorange]

This is a good idea

Thanks. I like it because it provides several ways in. It also prevents the sole requirement from being based on posting. I think that will only serve to create a bunch of useless posts/threads just for membership. Also, who is going to determine what is "significant"?

 

[JuJu-]

Thats a bunch of good Ideas, and the whole reason why we started it in the first place. Whats in the poll at the top is just a preliminary gauge as to what we were thinking. It is by no means the only way it will be! Keep the good ideas coming I like alot of them so far!

 

[JuJu-]

My suggestion- allow people who own Kershaw OR ZT, but don't require that they own both.

This is what we mean by monikers you don't have to have both a zt and a kershaw. Essentially you would be something like "Order of Kai, Zed head"
or "Kai-Guys, Kershaw krew" something along those lines.

 

[Black samurai]

Well I'm all for this, I'm a big fan of zt, and I'm willing to help out any way I can.

 

[mmkjohnson1]

I still think we should go with something like this:

Originally Posted by solidorange
For determining membership, I vote for some kind of point system with several options. For example:

Score 10 points:
1 point for every 5 Kershaws owned.
1 point for every 3 ZT's owned.
1 point for every modified Kershaw/ZT owned.
1 point for every "Knife of the Year" owned.
1 point for every year of BF membership.
1 point for every 200 posts.
1 point for every 50 posts in the Kershaw section.
1 point for every 10 threads started in the Kershaw section.
1 point for a recommendation from a current club member.
1 point for a paid BF membership.
2 points for a gold BF membership.
3 points for visiting the Kershaw factory.

etc.

+1 for this idea

 

[SurpriseGoat]

Isn't there already the kershawholics group? Pretty sure there is.....

 

[solidorange]

I am definitely in to help as well. I was a moderator on androidforums (nerd alert!) for quite awhile, so I know the ins and outs of forum management. :thumbup: