POLL: WHAT IS THE BEST FACTORY MADE TACTICAL FOLDER.

Spy. Military, best steel for the buck. Starmate is more "Tactical" looking though...
 
BM910 Elishewitz Stryker and 905 Mini (stupid no Axis-lock rule!).

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Professor

[This message has been edited by Professor (edited 18 June 1999).]
 
AFCK
If I could test all the a.m., the Commander and the SOCOM would also be interesting.
 
Carson model 4 (sorry, I had to do it)

Military

Starmate

SOCOM
 
In my order of preference:

Manual:

1. Mission MPF.
2. Chris Reeve Sebenza.
3. Spyderco Military.

Auto:

1. Benchmade AFO.
2. Microtech DA.
3. MOD Hornet.
 
Carson/CRKT M-16
Carson/Outdoor Edge MD.4
MOD Trident



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"Cet animal est tres mechant;quand on l'attaque il se defend."("This animal is very mischievous: when it is attacked it defends itself")
 
I would have to say the benchmade A.F.C.K.

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"ALWAYS WATCH YOUR SIX"


 
I have both a Military and a Carnivour, and I would be very hard put to choose between them. The Carnivour's rolling lock is so solid that I have trouble believing it and the general construction of it makes it feel as if you could chop stone with it. The only knife that I have seen more durably constructed are the old Al Mar SERE folders, such as the one that I have. Those make me think if bank vaults. The Military is lighter, 5 oz. to 3 oz., and the blade has a choil and no liners but for the liner lock. I have never experienced a liner lock failure, but my liner locks have all bee quality items (Terzuola Clipits and the Military) so I would say that the lock is atoss-up. The weight difference appears to be in the liners, and I would vote for the lighter, as I see no softness in the Military hilt. The choil is a good item in that it gives some protection against the hand sliding up on to the blade, and allows you to choke up on the blade for detail work (probably not tactical). Deployment is equally fast with either, at least for me.

After some thought, I would choose the Military as it is lighter and has a choil. The blade is CPM440v vs. ATS34 in the Carnivour, a wash in IMO. I do prefer the wedge grind of the Military over the hollow grind of the Carnivour. But, if apparent strength and durability are your major criteria, then the Carnivour is the obvious choice.

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Walk in the Light,
Hugh


[This message has been edited by FullerH (edited 19 June 1999).]
 
Jackyl, the reason i love the socom now is because for some reason, out of about 70-100 hard spine whacks the knife now does not fail the test, it's weird, why did it take about 3-4months for the lock to lock tightly.

AND TO ALL FORUMITES, YOU REALLY DIDN'T ANSWER MY OTHER QUESTION, OUT OF ALL OF THEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK HAD THE STRONGEST LOCK, AND WOULD BE ABLE TO HOLD THE MOST WEIGHT WITHOUT FAILING, THANK U.
 
AFCK is my personal favorite (sorry, Spydie folks!), but...

Military has the strongest lock and best all-around steel on that list.

I have heard way too much about lock failures on SOCOMs and M.o.D. knives to even consider them.

I am still waiting to hear a well-reasoned argument as to why either a tanto point or a chisel grind is desirable in a "tactical" folder.

My $0.02

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-Corduroy
(Why else would a bear want a pocket?)
 
Rage,

My top two picks were based on the LOCK -- REKAT and Speedtech. (Note: not linerlocks except the commander which has deployment speed.)

I love my KFF but I think the RL is stronger than the KFF linerlock though the latter is as well made as I've seen.

sing
 
If I could get one of those on that list for 30 - I would get the comander - just cause its only 30...

The best knife on the list -

MILITARY.

but then again - the knife i'ld want in a fight? CS Vaquero Grande!

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I mean, if I went around saying I was an Emperor because some
moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, people would put me away!


 
No need to get in a rage Rage.The lock that you are looking for is the button lock as found on autos.

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Ghostsix, I seriously believe that you will get rage into trouble. Autos are, I believe, very illegal in NY.

Rage, as to which lock is the strongest, in my experience, it is the REKAT rolling lock. I looked at a Benchmade Axis lock the other day and was not as impressed as I am with teh rolling lock. But I suspect that it is academic as any of those, or a good liner lock as in the Military, will hold more pressure than you could apply.

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Walk in the Light,
Hugh
 
Should I HAVE to choose a liner lock, I would undoubtedly choos from that list the AFCK under the following terms:

IT IS THE GHCA MODIFIED BOB KASPAR SPEC AFCK DONE BY KNIFEHEAD SO THE LINER DOES NOT CLOSE ON MY HAND.

I own MOD Hornet and I've tried other buttons and discs for a long time, but under duress the hole finds my thumb best, and I am way to clumsy to find the hole without a big gap to fall into.

Such a limiting list, Rage, go beyond the mundane factory and psuedo-production. I agree I would try to bet on a carson M-4 if it were thirty bucks. I would also try something bigger like a Sifu, just because it was thirty bucks and I love the design. As it is, I do bet on thirty bucks. I carry daily a spyderco endura serrated and it works just fine. I may try something else someday if I get tired of the old fasioned way, like if Sal decide to make a rocker lock all the way back like a Buck 110 and titanium lined unpolished green linen micarta handles with teflon discs to make the blade snap out smoothg as wet glass, and grooves along the handle like a livesay Uji to make retention even better, and a clip like the pre-98 endura with a metal reinforcement but micarta exterior, but I like what works for me. Sal PLease PLease PLease...hurt me good like this. I'll pay a lot for this.

 
I vote for the SOCOM due to it exceptional grip and cuting ability. I haven't specifically tested the lock, nor has it failed on me ever.

People seem to be ignoring that the question specified "only liner locks, not axis/rolling"
 
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