Post your 165's!

Codger_64 said:
No not on the guards of the 165's. On the tang. Late in the "Schrade Walden" marked production the tang stamp was moved from blade left to blade right. Shortly thereafter serialization ceased. While we don't know the exact dates of these two changes, an educated guess is that this knife was produced between 1971 and late 1972. There were 15,131 knives of this pattern shipped in 1972 by years end, so unserialized examples would not be uncommon. But less common than serialized ones made from 1966-1971. The total of those years was 41,894 pieces.
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Thanks Codger_64. I guess mine was produced between 1971 and 1972 then.
-Bruce
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Here's a quick and dirty shot of the whole thing.
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Some of these 165's I'm seeing here have the look (to me) of stainless. Were any 165's made in stainless?
ivan51 said:
Wow looks like I have a old one :thumbup:
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According to Codger's information yours is 1971-1972 as well. I suppose being "old" is relative to ones age. I guess that forty some odd years would be old for a knife. ;)
-Bruce
 
one of the neat things of this forum is that someone will ask a question forcing us to go look at our knives to see if we can answer the query. looked at all my 165 OT's and the one with the largest serial number, 16500, is on the left side. hope this gives a little help have both serialized and nonserialized Schrade Walden's. Plus looked at my only 165 UH and it too has its serial number on the left side.
 
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delmas2nd said:
one of the neat things of this forum is that someone will ask a question forcing us to go look at our knives to see if we can answer the query. looked at all my 165 OT's and the one with the largest serial number, 16500, is on the left side. hope this gives a little help have both serialized and nonserialized Schrade Walden's. Plus looked at my only 165 UH and it too has its serial number on the left side.
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A little clarification please? By "Blade Right" are we standing behind the knife holding it by the handle with the tip of the blade pointing away from us, the "Blade right" is now on our right? As an example, are we now looking at "Blade Right" on my image's above?
-Bruce
 
Ballenxj said:
A little clarification please? By "Blade Right" are we standing behind the knife holding it by the handle with the tip of the blade pointing away from us, the "Blade right" is now on our right? As an example, are we now looking at "Blade Right" on my image's above?
-Bruce
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that is how i took it. looking from the handle down the blade. the right side is where the stamping is found on the non serialized blades. was wondering that myself but all the serialized blades i have, have it on the left side.
 

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delmas2nd said:
that is how i took it. looking from the handle down the blade. the right side is where the stamping is found on the non serialized blades. was wondering that myself but all the serialized blades i have, have it on the left side.
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OK, That's what I thought as well, but wanted to confirm.
PS, is the third 165 in your post real bone?
-Bruce
 
Yes, that was my intention. With the knife held in the user's hand edge down and pointed at the lion, tiger or bear in front of them, the side of the blade on the user's right or the user's left.

And yes, second production 165UH was stainless as were some later limited editions. First production 165UH was carbon steel thus disproving the mistaken addage that "all UH were stainless and all OT were carbon".
 
Ballenxj said:
OK, That's what I thought as well, but wanted to confirm.
PS, is the third 165 in your post real bone?
-Bruce
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no i believe it is genuine staglon. i am so not good at this i really do not know how to figure out what is bone and not. but in this case am pretty sure staglon was the handle material.
 
delmas2nd said:
no i believe it is genuine staglon. i am so not good at this i really do not know how to figure out what is bone and not. but in this case am pretty sure staglon was the handle material.
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OK, Thanks. It just seems to look a bit different than the Staglon I'm used to seeing. I've heard some of the early Schrades had real bone or stag handles. :)
-Bruce
 
Real bone on early schrade pocket knives and some folding hunters. We don't usually see bone or stag on the sheath knives until later special factory orders or limited editions. Easiest way to tell if a Schrade UH knife is real jigged bone or stag is to compare it to another, even in pictures. The molds used to produce the Delrin handle covers did not change much over the years though hand dying and glazing, wear accounts for some slight appearance variations. But the indentions and protrusions will remain pretty much the same from one example to the next.
 
Here is a comparison of the scales of Delmas' knife above with another early example:

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wow how did they find bone to be that close in structure?


need to figure out how to get the color back on mine. i think it is just a film but how to get it off with out scraping the underlying strata?
 
No. it was two layers of dye. I restored one of mine with a heavy coat of Fiebines (sp) shoe sole dye, first brown then black followed by buffing. The molded Delrin is the lighter "bone" or cream color you see. At the factory, they used two sucessive hot dye baths (brown then black) followed by buffing.
 
was that paste? if so i have loads of that since i shine my own shoes, which by the way i get to wear two of now.
 
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