Practicality for Combat?

[Rat-30]

Hell, I'll feed the troll...

lowlux, Dude, you come into a knife forum to tell us what a whuppin' you're going to pass out in a knife attack, bare handed against a knife...

Then, you post a picture of a story regarding someone bringin a knife to a gun fight...

You really are helping people to see them as the same thing - stupid is as stupid does...

Thanks for proving a point. People have tried to help you, and you still act like a jackass.

>>>

Back on topic:

The knife I would try to find a place for on my gear would be THE PRECIOUS, my SHSH... finding that too large, I would go with the USMC issue bayonet/combat knife (not really much different in size), and a Busse Urban Defender.

I would want a big sticker for range, but I understand that a 4 to 6-inch blade is effective if used correctly. The Urban (public) Defender has the penetrative qualities I would want, and is big enough for most applications. The SHSH may be too penetrative, skewering someone/something behind the target, but I'd like to give it a fair shake.

My advice: 4 - 6 -inch blade, INFI, handle that fits you.

Best regards,

John

 

[dante]

Opening MREs

LMAO I figured that much! It's unbelievable what some people are advertising these days. I glad to say that Busse does not do the military hype and all the claims they make basically have been proved "Live".

 

[BootmasterGeneral]

Opening MREs




NO :jerkit:



No almost

Sentry elimination is done with a 500lb bomb.

your absolutly right, knives just have no practicality in this modern battle field. Hell I doubt there is one incident where a grunt has had to pull his knife to "gut" a hostile in a hand to hand situation where his/her primary and secondary weaponds were not available.

 

[runningboar]

I am a SFC in the US Army Stationed at Ft Bragg, NC some of the things I read on the internet I get a real good chuckle out of. Most of the knives talked about on this forum if found during a health and welfare inspection would be locked in the arms room until the service member PCSed or ETSed. Most of the knives carried into combat by soldiers are cheap, dull, POS that were bought at the PX or clothing sales, regardless of what custom makers want you to believe. The average E2 or PFC would laugh in your face about a knife that cost 300 dollars, and would rather spend his money at a tittie bar on bragg boulevard. Chris

EDIT: The most used and ever present knife on the battle field is either a Gerber or Leatherman multi tool, all models are simply called a "GERBER".

 

[BootmasterGeneral]

I am a SFC in the US Army Stationed at FT Bragg, NC Some of the things I read on the internet I get a real good chuckle out of. Most of the knives talked about on this forum if found during a wealth and welfare inspection would be locked in the arms room until the service member PCSed or ETSed. Most of the knives carried into combat by soldiers are cheap, dull, POS that were bought at the PX or clothing sales, regardless of what custom makers want you to believe. The average E2 or PFC would laugh in your face about a knife that cost 300 dollars, and would rather spend his money at a tittie bar on bragg boulevard. Chris

yeah dude because you're the only military man on this forum, so you must know.:jerkit:

 

[runningboar]

Not at all, just talking about my experiences. No brag, no hype, just what I have seen, in the states and down range. Chris

 

[Gravelface]

That was the best I have heard so far, cause it is so true. While in Iraq I would get questioned why I needed a knife as big as a coldsteel SRK (PX special). I could only imagine what kind of hell an enlisted member would catch for possesing a FBM! Most duties my knife saw was opening MREs, and getting thrown at doors, and cutting 550 cord. Sad but true.

 

[SNAFU]

Personally I would think the most useful blades would more than likely be the smaller EDC type, i.e. Badgers, Meaners, Active/Heavy Duty. They still offer adequate cutting capability, are super tough, and will not draw as much attention as the larger blades. :thumbup:

 

[BootmasterGeneral]

Not at all, just talking about my experiences. No brag, no hype, just what I have seen, in the states and down range. Chris

well, what would you rather have if they allow it and -IF YOU COULD AFFORD IT-

theres a lot of qualified military experts besides internet warriors carrying expensive steel.

 

[runningboar]

I have it, and carry it every day since 1998 including 3+ years in swa, a Benchmade AFCK, a leatherman wave and my M4. I am not trying to be an "internet warrior" I am just trying to be honest.

 

[SNAFU]

Ok what's up with the negative energy. This should calm all.

 

[Rat-30]

your absolutly right, knives just have no practicality in this modern battle field. Hell I doubt there is one incident where a grunt has had to pull his knife to "gut" a hostile in a hand to hand situation where his/her primary and secondary weaponds were not available.

I hear ya, BootmasterGeneral... :thumbup:

Quick, somebody tell this Salvadoran Grunt that his knife was unneccessary on that patrol in Iraq, and he shouldn't have been so brutal as to use it when he was out of ammo and his squad was still under fire...

I remember he was *very* effective with it...

My hands go where I go, my folder most places, my pistol some, and my rifle few. You should have a plan for each.

All the best,

John
Feeder of trolls

 

[Rat-30]

Ok what's up with the negative energy. This should calm all.

Now Snafu, that ain't calming things down one bit, in fact... it's getting quite hot in here....

 

[dante]

Not at all, just talking about my experiences. No brag, no hype, just what I have seen, in the states and down range. Chris

makes a lot of sense, I mean how many people do we know that don't know how to use a knife, sharpen it, maintain it do not know how a knife can cost $300 etc... The service people are no different, sure there have been posts here of guys going to war and asking what type of Busse knife should they buy, but I take they are the minority. Most of the kids going to combat sadly don't have the money for a $150+ blade.

 

[runningboar]

John feeder of trolls,

Very good picture, what type of knife is that?

 

[mymindisamob]

As was stated earlier, depends on mission AND personnel. Blades are tools as well as weapons, and are managed as such in many different combat units and scenarios. Nuff said.

 

[Rat-30]

John feeder of trolls,

Very good picture, what type of knife is that?

My brother, I think it's the El Salvador version of a Buck 110 or somesuch folder... I don't remember if the make was listed in the new article... I'll search around for it...

 

[runningboar]

makes a lot of sense, I mean how many people do we know that don't know how to use a knife, sharpen it, maintain it do not know how a knife can cost $300 etc... The service people are no different, sure there have been posts here of guys going to war and asking what type of Busse knife should they buy, but I take they are the minority. Most of the kids going to combat sadly don't have the money for a $150+ blade.

My point exactly, and wouldn't spend it on knife if they had it.

Practically every soldier has a knife in their pocket, I have seen zero, besides issue BMs, that cost over 100 dollars and most are folders. Chris

 

[BootmasterGeneral]

I agree that the FBM is over kill but me likes it.

 

[dante]

I hear ya, BootmasterGeneral... :thumbup:

Quick, somebody tell this Salvadoran Grunt that his knife was unneccessary on that patrol in Iraq, and he shouldn't have been so brutal as to use it when he was out of ammo and his squad was still under fire...

I remember he was *very* effective with it...

My hands go where I go, my folder most places, my pistol some, and my rifle few. You should have a plan for each.

All the best,

John
Feeder of trolls

I read a story about a group of Rangers (I think they were) that had to fix bayonets and charge because they ran out of ammo. So it's although very rare looks like knowing the basics it's still handy.