Praise for Utilikilt!

[MicMurry]

I only have one improvement. That they be at least adjustable 1" either way. The only negative to the UK's is that if your weight changes dramatically, your only recourse is to buy more in the new size.

Yeah that 1" would be really great. THough comparitively most pants can't be adjusted to easily either. Then again most pants aren't $120+.

So how well do the pockets stay on the Survival? Snap on pockets seems kinda dangerous to me. Drop on and you could lose a set a keys, or worse a bali or two! :barf:

 

[Howard Wallace]

So how well do the pockets stay on the Survival? Snap on pockets seems kinda dangerous to me. Drop on and you could lose a set a keys, or worse a bali or two! :barf:

That was my thought too, and why I chose the workman over the Survival. The Workman has plenty of securely attached pockets and places to hang stuff. I don't see much advantage in being able to remove the pockets, and considerable possible disadvantage.

Does the Survival model have any other desireable features other than the pockets? I see it was made of a different kind of cloth. Any advantages there? Do any of you guys have one?

 

[tonyccw]

Does the Survival model have any other desireable features other than the pockets? I see it was made of a different kind of cloth. Any advantages there? Do any of you guys have one?

The side pockets are held in place by 4 snaps, with lots of loops sewn into the permanently attached flap cover. When detached from the side, the pockets can be worn on the belt as a pouch, or attached as a sporran, with it's own flap cover. And with two side pockets, you can have one of each. Aside from the different fabric (a huge difference for me, as my 1+ year old workman has still to break in), the Survivals include the front slash pockets found in the Mocker, for a total of 6 pockets. There's also the built in two stage Modesty toggle system; stage one prvents the flap from flying away with the breeze, stage two acts as a full Modesty snap. The Workman can only attach the inner fold with the modesty snap, so this is a slight improvement.

All the features of the 1st Gen Survival UK made it to the 2nd Gen. So far I haven't experienced the failed fabric issue with my two 1st Gen Survivals. But the 2nd Gen is definitely much better. You can't order them from the website yet, but they are stocked in the store. So a call to the shop is all it takes. Otto hooked me up with this new one.

 

[Howard Wallace]

All the features of the 1st Gen Survival UK made it to the 2nd Gen. So far I haven't experienced the failed fabric issue with my two 1st Gen Survivals. But the 2nd Gen is definitely much better. You can't order them from the website yet, but they are stocked in the store. So a call to the shop is all it takes. Otto hooked me up with this new one.

Thanks for the information. I may have to drive in to Seattle and check out the Survival in the near future.

I have to admit, although the canvas of the Workman is durable it does have a drawback. On long hikes certain free swinging tissues can suffer abrasion. I have even resorted to (gasp) underwear on long hikes to prevent this. You do lose the feeling of the gentle breeze but the subsequent utility of the tool for other purposes is not compromised. Perhaps a softer fabric would minimize this problem.

 

[MicMurry]

I have to admit, although the canvas of the Workman is durable it does have a drawback. On long hikes certain free swinging tissues can suffer abrasion. ... Perhaps a softer fabric would minimize this problem.

Whoa! That would be a problem. Maybe a little moleskin or some other soft fabric attached inside would solve that problem.

The modesty snap feature is interesting. Using both stages almost seems as though it would make them feel like a lose pair of pants.

 

[Howard Wallace]

Maybe a little moleskin or some other soft fabric attached inside would solve that problem.

I ususally carry moleskin for use on my heels to prevent blisters. I never thought of putting it on my ....

It sticks pretty well. Getting it off might hurt.

The modesty snap feature is interesting. Using both stages almost seems as though it would make them feel like a lose pair of pants.

Mostly good for climbing ladders, steep stairs, etc., where potential observers could suffer embarrassment.

 

[tonyccw]

Perhaps a softer fabric would minimize this problem.

Hence my reasoning for ranking the different fabric so highly, and why I currently only have 1 Workman.

It sticks pretty well. Getting it off might hurt.

One could always sticky the inside of the UK.

Mostly good for climbing ladders, steep stairs, etc., where potential observers could suffer embarrassment.

And is strictly optional.

 

[musashi]

Originally posted by Balicat:

women wear panties, men were UNDERWEAR! Must self-correct.

You must not have seen this then?



Stop chafing under your Kilt!

By the way, I am Irish and we don't see a lot of Kilt wear over here other than at weddings and such. Could they do a ploar fleece one with modesty snaps to the ankle for the Temp. over here?? Or just reall baggy fleece tracksuit pants might do??
No problem with any lads want to wear kilts though, "whatever blows your dress up" !! Have fun, a chairde go lear.

 

[MicMurry]

One could always sticky the inside of the UK.
And is strictly optional.

Yep thats pretty much what I was thinking.
The other way would be quite painful I think!

 

[Howard Wallace]

Yep thats pretty much what I was thinking.
The other way would be quite painful I think!

Your post was actually quite clear. The image that formed in my mind was so unusual and humorous I couldn't help "misunderstanding."

 

[MicMurry]

I don't even want to imagine pulling mole skin off my...

 

[PWork]

You might skin more than your mole....

Paul

 

[EdwardB]

I'm a little late on this one, but Balicat: Congrats!

Your obsession is in it's infancy.

I've got 11 and am saving for a survival or custom MARPAT.

Yes, they occasionally do customs, but you'll pay. Double to be exact.

Nothing like a UK on a hot day.

See ya at Blade in mine. Just like last year.

Ed
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[MicMurry]

I'm a little late on this one, but Balicat: Congrats!

Your obsession is in it's infancy.
...
Nothing like a UK on a hot day.

Ed

Oh great, I've just added another money drain!

I'm looking forward to a hot day. Nothing but cold and rainy so far...

 

[Lone Hunter]

I enjoy seeing folks in dress up in these ways.Remember a few years back when we had cowboys walking all around us in their dusters and boots?

I'm thinking of starting a pirate craze,can one drive with an eye patch on?

 

[Balicat]

Wow, 11 UK's Ed? That's quite a collection! Awesome...

The UK is actually on Mic, but I started the thread to show my support (I'm actually...*sshhhhh*...a GIRL! So I get to wear unbifurcated garments all the time without ridicule...) In addition to my obvious *approval*...he's comfortable and happy and I'll always support that!

 

[tonyccw]

I enjoy seeing folks in dress up in these ways.Remember a few years back when we had cowboys walking all around us in their dusters and boots?

Did it go away? I still have my Duster Drover Coat.

I'm thinking of starting a pirate craze,can one drive with an eye patch on?

Sure, why not? Your depth perception would be shot however. I'd advise that you brake early and go slow on the curves.

 

[Stu Gatz]

I'll just go ahead and jump in here (pardon the rudeness) and say that although I do prefer a traditional tartan kilt, I have somewhat taken to the UK's in that they are rather less expensive than the traditional kilt (yes that's the Scotsman in me saying it plainly) and I own two at this time. I wore one (survival) at the Vegas Classic and had several people ask if it was a "combat kilt". The pockets have proven to be very practical.

I had similar concerns about the snap on pockets but they have yet to pose any problem and remain quite secure although I have not engaged in any overly strenuous work with them.

My only desire is that someone of less politically left and abrasive attitude would start making a similar kilt because my first contact with the "owner" resulted in his steadfast attempt to get into a political discussion about "red vs. blue" states and blah, blah, blah about the recent presidential election, of which he was quite upset about. Great product but terrible business sense.

Stuart

 

[pcnorton]

Thanks for the information. I may have to drive in to Seattle and check out the Survival in the near future.

I have to admit, although the canvas of the Workman is durable it does have a drawback. On long hikes certain free swinging tissues can suffer abrasion. I have even resorted to (gasp) underwear on long hikes to prevent this. You do lose the feeling of the gentle breeze but the subsequent utility of the tool for other purposes is not compromised. Perhaps a softer fabric would minimize this problem.

I always like the utilikilt but have been too much of a wussy to get it. Of course I notice you kind of have to wear super manly shoes when wearing these. Flip flops or fuzzy slippers definate no no.

But for the swinging issue. If you are scottish or irish or french you shouldn't have these issues. Me being irish/french doubly cursed would have definately no need for moleskin.

Underwear though? Go manly, a condom.


Paul

 

[EdwardB]

Hey Tony,

PM me if you're interested in a MARPAT flavored UK. There is currently a movement (albeit small right now) to get a batch done. Much like the Ranger kilts a while back (my Khaki is awesome).

Ed
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