Protection knife against wild animals.

halbschaf said:
Ok, does in whole America no one exist, able or skilled to answer my question? I cannot believe it.
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We're capable of carrying guns here so any American who worries about bears will pass right on by the knife idea and go straight to buying a firearm. This is partially why no one can answer your question.

If you have to have a knife, maybe look into knives designed for hog hunting and get one on the long side. Contrary to my first point, some Americans do hunt feral hogs with knives. I think it's a bit silly but it floats their boat.
 
Of the two black bear attacks linked in a later post, one was attacking a loose dog, not the person. And the other was a bear with a broken jaw that was starving to death.

Considering that tens of millions of people recreate and live in black bear country... Non issue.

Twenty-thousand boy scouts spend 12 days backpacking in extremely active black bear country. Annually. Since 1938. Zero fatalities from bears. None, ever. And it's not because Boy Scouts carry zulu spears. :rolleyes:

This, however, is terrifyingly real. And I'm taking precautions immediately.
person-struck-by-meteorite-ann-hodges_64484_600x450.jpg

Yes, this woman was hit by a meteorite.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ussia-meteorite-ann-hodges-science-space-hit/

Funny truth, more people in Alabama have been hit by meteorites than killed by bears.
Similarly, since we're talking about Virginia, polar bears have killed more people in New York City (n=2) than black bears have killed in Virginia (n=0).

That's it from me; I'm done with this topic. ;)
 
If a gun is not an option, get a large spear on a very stout pole that is at least four feet long. If you can find a carbon fiber pole fr lightness and strength, it would be even better.
 
.44 Mag 8" barrel, Sorry but a knife would not protect you against a cat or bear. I hike and camp in areas with bears and lots of cats and my Stealth Hunter never leaves my side, My father used to make and maintain trails in Alaska and some of the cascades in Oregon and he knew a guy who religiously carried a .50 Alaskan lever-action rifle, that thing killed 6 bears, never recovered a bullet. My dad carried a 30-30 for most of his trail days. As far as blade go for at home I would go with a Battle-ready Falchion or Katana but even those aren't the best.
 
Bob W said:
Of the two black bear attacks linked in a later post, one was attacking a loose dog, not the person. And the other was a bear with a broken jaw that was starving to death.

Considering that tens of millions of people recreate and live in black bear country... Non issue.

Twenty-thousand boy scouts spend 12 days backpacking in extremely active black bear country. Annually. Since 1938. Zero fatalities from bears. None, ever. And it's not because Boy Scouts carry zulu spears. :rolleyes:

This, however, is terrifyingly real. And I'm taking precautions immediately.
person-struck-by-meteorite-ann-hodges_64484_600x450.jpg

Yes, this woman was hit by a meteorite.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ussia-meteorite-ann-hodges-science-space-hit/

Funny truth, more people in Alabama have been hit by meteorites than killed by bears.
Similarly, since we're talking about Virginia, polar bears have killed more people in New York City (n=2) than black bears have killed in Virginia (n=0).

That's it from me; I'm done with this topic. ;)
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I just heard on a show last night that there has been 1 fatality in Oregon from a mountain lion attack...in the past 80 years. IMO it's a non-issue as well. YMMV.
 
killgar said:
I guess Oregonians are luckier than Californians- http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/lion/attacks.html

According to the California Department of Fish and Wildlife, there have been 3 fatal mountain lion attacks since 1986 in California, and 11 non-fatal attacks. Once again, I doubt the infrequency of such attacks offers any comfort to the dead, their loved ones, and those who survived but were left horribly mangled.

I also find it interesting that some people in this thread only refer to FATAL animal attacks, as if a non-fatal attack is something insignificant. Do a little internet searching if you think that a non-fatal bear or mountain lion attack is a minor issue of no consequence. I've seen the pictures of victims of non-fatal attacks and they aren't pretty.
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The family argument is silly. I won't even go into that.

I'm merely trying to demonstrate the infrequency of such attacks. The odds if you will. Now you can prepare for this all you like. I don't really give a darn. I guess my question to you would be why? Do you wear rubber boots all the time to prepare for lightning strikes? Do you wear a nomex suit in case of wildfires? How about a roll cage and a helmet when you go to the grocery store in your car? There is a point at which preparing for every little thing becomes absurd. To me carrying a gun, or a knife, to specifically kill a black bear or a cougar has past the absurdity point. I'm not going to carry a hunk of steel around the rest of my life for something that has such a small chance of happening. But like I said, do what you like. :rolleyes:
 
killgar said:
Why should people take simple precautions for emergency situations? Is that what you're asking? People carry many things with them into the wilderness for no other reason than emergency use. People carry survival kits, space blankets, emergency communications gear, etc, etc, etc. People carry many things that they will likely never need, but they carry them anyways. You might call that "absurd", I call it smart.
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It's smart to carry bandaids and a spare coat because the odds are high for that type of emergency. What I'm getting at is that you can't prepare for every little thing that may kill you. Preparing for LIKELY emergencies is prudent but you can get lost down that rabbit hole. For instance, how many here carry an epi pen? Close to none I would imagine and yet dying from anaphylaxis is more common than dying of a bear attack. Where are the discussions on that? There aren't any. You can't be a manly man talking about dying of a bee sting which is why carrying a gun to kill a bear gets brought up. It's an emotionally based topic rather than a logical one.

That said there ARE high bear attack areas where I agree you should be protected. However, for most of us reading this that isn't the case. Be prudent, not paranoid.
 
So, did Dkenz get an 8" fixed blade knife and some U.S. forestry service recommended bear spray or what?
 
According to the local news station it was a boar spear and they also stated that in the last two years there has been six cougar attacks here in BC
 
On another news story I read, a cougar (probably this cougar) acted aggressively to these people about two months ago
It appears that this gentleman purchased the spear for protection
After their complaint a few months ago CO's did look for the cougar but it got away
A cougar was reported to be stalking some other people on this island over the last few months and the CO's believe it was the same cougar
Last year on this very same small island a worker in the gravel pit was attacked by a cougar, but that cougar wasn't found
 
Hi everyone. These fora are a wealth of steel and edge info.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/07/04/bc-fernie-grizzly-bear-attack.html

Bears are much faster and more agile than humans on any terrain.
Carry bear spray and if in grizzly areas also consider a short shotgun loaded with slugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn-7nbU9xho

The dog in this video is lucky to be alive.
How fast and agile is a house cat ? Now make that cat wild, and 60 to 200 pounds.
That's why the guy on Flores Is. had a spear. You don't want to be in close with a wild cat.
Vancouver Island (the real "Big Island" in the eastern Pacific) and surrounding islands have more cougars per square mile than anywhere else in the world and they are considered to be the most aggressive.

cheers.
 
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