Queen purchase finalized!

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I'm with you there...I still haven't seen anyone post a review or comment on the few new one's that have been released outside of dealers.........
 
Really nice array of Bone n' Stag in that picture. Mountain Man is too large a knife for my tastes but I'm sure it will be well-received, providing they don't have the issues that seemed to plague quite a few of the Queen version......Wonder if a non lock model will appear too?
 
Queen's Mountain Man, and GEC's '23 were both modeled after the Remington 1123 I think.
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I wonder if the same hand designed them both??
The GEC is truer to the original.
 
I know it's been mentioned before in this thread but they could really use someone at Queen to wave a wand over the website and what appears on it. I'd guess there probably isn't any way they could hire someone new full time for it given the larger issues of buying and rebooting the company. However, you could reach out to a local college or technical institute and try to find someone majoring in graphics/web design who might be willing to do an internship or spend some freelance time doing the work to get experience. Something like that couldn't help but produce better results in my opinion. The picture of the D2 F&W knives and the banner at the top of the page look like I made them...and I'm bad at stuff like that.
 
I've not seen these before. And they look interesting.

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The loss of ATS34 is a real shame. D2 is used in bottom level Queens, the ATS34 was the only premium stainless steel they ever offered on any knife. I am not the only knifeknut who buys primarily their ATS34 models. I like shiny knives, especially when I pay a premium price, but I use my knives, thus I want a good stainless steel. Can you even get a good shine on D2? Outside of the hard to get CaseBose line, the ATS34 S&Ms were the only slipjoint readily available in a premium steel. Hopefully this does not mean the end of ATS34 for Queen. It was a real "discriminator" for the company.
 
I wouldn't read too much into the D2 F&W. I suspect they are still using up components that were idle in inventory at purchase. One thing I have heard repeatedly from them is that they are really excited to bring more exotic and rarely used steels to the market.

The Queen City stuff above was before the change in ownership and was on par with the Heritage series and the Queen City delrin/wood knives moved mainly thru SMKW 2-3 years ago. Rough cut blades and less time doing f/f with a little lower price point. Also, in real life the bone came out brown instead of this antique green color.
 
Awesome!
I really love Queen's rendition of the Remington Bullet lockback pattern. It's been my favorite locking knife ever since I got one several years ago; my ACSB (Amber Carved Stag Bone) Mountain Man in D2 rides on my hip EVERY day.
These new handle variations are lookin' GOOD! And a Schatt knife in D2?? Yes please! I will be indulging, for certain.

To be quite frank, I've often wondered why so many people have been freaking out about the GEC lockbacks, when Queen has been making almost the exact same pattern (in an awesome steel, nonetheless) for years now.

Go Queen! Keep up the good work! I'm happy to see this progress, and am glad that I can continue to be interested in Queen products! :thumbup:
 
knifeswapper said:
I wouldn't read too much into the D2 F&W. I suspect they are still using up components that were idle in inventory at purchase. One thing I have heard repeatedly from them is that they are really excited to bring more exotic and rarely used steels to the market.

The Queen City stuff above was before the change in ownership and was on par with the Heritage series and the Queen City delrin/wood knives moved mainly thru SMKW 2-3 years ago. Rough cut blades and less time doing f/f with a little lower price point. Also, in real life the bone came out brown instead of this antique green color.
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Good info Mike. Thanks for your input.
 
puukkoman said:
Awesome!
I really love Queen's rendition of the Remington Bullet lockback pattern. It's been my favorite locking knife ever since I got one several years ago; my ACSB (Amber Carved Stag Bone) Mountain Man in D2 rides on my hip EVERY day.
These new handle variations are lookin' GOOD! And a Schatt knife in D2?? Yes please! I will be indulging, for certain.

To be quite frank, I've often wondered why so many people have been freaking out about the GEC lockbacks, when Queen has been making almost the exact same pattern (in an awesome steel, nonetheless) for years now.

Go Queen! Keep up the good work! I'm happy to see this progress, and am glad that I can continue to be interested in Queen products! :thumbup:
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Bill Howard,Founder and Owner of GEC, worked for Queen for 30 years more or less before founding Great Eastern Cutlery. I would guess that he had input in the Queen Mountain Man Trapper. And probably MORE input in the GEC 72/73/23 patterns.
 
I can't help but wonder why there is so much discussion of Great Eastern Cutlery in a thread titled "Queen Purchase Finalized"? What's up with that?
 
rma100 said:
I can't help but wonder why there is so much discussion of Great Eastern Cutlery in a thread titled "Queen Purchase Finalized"? What's up with that?
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Because the Daniels went in with Bill Howard, who was a longtime Queen employee, to start Great Eastern. The Daniels, who owned part of Great Eastern, sold their stake in GEC, and bought out Queen. I've done some small trades with and bought from, Ryan Daniels and his wife at shows. They are good people, and Ryan knows his product. When I brought up the fact that GEC had bear trap springs, he said they were working on that, and showed me some new products with great springs, almost perfect for my taste.

I am excited to see any new offerings from Queen, do not expect Queen to turn into GEC Jr, but do think that the Daniels will stay hands on enough that QC will definitely go up. I've recently come into the possession of two Moore Maker sowbelly knives, one a sowbelly moose, the other a 5 blade sowbelly stockman. While neither had great walk and talk, they were still very nice knives, 1095, and nice scales.
 
brownshoe said:
The loss of ATS34 is a real shame. D2 is used in bottom level Queens, the ATS34 was the only premium stainless steel they ever offered on any knife. I am not the only knifeknut who buys primarily their ATS34 models. I like shiny knives, especially when I pay a premium price, but I use my knives, thus I want a good stainless steel. Can you even get a good shine on D2? Outside of the hard to get CaseBose line, the ATS34 S&Ms were the only slipjoint readily available in a premium steel. Hopefully this does not mean the end of ATS34 for Queen. It was a real "discriminator" for the company.
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Wow! Ive never heard D2 referred to as bottm level. D2 is superior steel. I believe it does a better edge than ATS34, having used both for many years. Stainless is not a big factor for me. Staining is ok and kind of nice with traditional folders. Seems to be preferable to a lot of users.
 
For many years Albert Baer owned Schrade, Camillus and Imperial. The Schrade 'paperwork' (shop floor notes, minutes of meetings, etc.) is now in private hands. What it reveals is that it was normal to swap the work around among these 3 separate manufacturing plants, regardless of what branding got stamped on the blades or shield. The reason was to keep all workers busy as this made the businesses more efficient.
The 2 principals now owning Queen and GEC respectively have a history of working together at GEC and the new sole owner of GEC has a 30 yr. history of working for Queen.
Hence let's hope that Queen and GEC will work cooperatively with each other (a la Albert Baer) rather than compete aggressively with each other. Perhaps this has been the plan from the beginning of the new Queen ownership ?
"Together We Stand" should help both companies survive the onslaught of very good offshore traditional style folders.
roland
 
akadave2 said:
Wow! Ive never heard D2 referred to as bottm level. D2 is superior steel. I believe it does a better edge than ATS34, having used both for many years. Stainless is not a big factor for me. Staining is ok and kind of nice with traditional folders. Seems to be preferable to a lot of users.
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I believe you mis-read Brownshoe's post. He did not say that D2 is a bottom level steel. He said that D2 was used in the standard or bottom level Queen knives. Not the same thing.

There's room for all sorts in Traditional. A lot of folks only like non-stainless blades and that's OK. Some folks prefer true stainless and that's OK too.
 
rprocter said:
For many years Albert Baer owned Schrade, Camillus and Imperial. The Schrade 'paperwork' (shop floor notes, minutes of meetings, etc.) is now in private hands. What it reveals is that it was normal to swap the work around among these 3 separate manufacturing plants, regardless of what branding got stamped on the blades or shield. The reason was to keep all workers busy as this made the businesses more efficient.
The 2 principals now owning Queen and GEC respectively have a history of working together at GEC and the new sole owner of GEC has a 30 yr. history of working for Queen.
Hence let's hope that Queen and GEC will work cooperatively with each other (a la Albert Baer) rather than compete aggressively with each other. Perhaps this has been the plan from the beginning of the new Queen ownership ?
"Together We Stand" should help both companies survive the onslaught of very good offshore traditional style folders.
roland
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In my line of work you need friendly competitors. Especially when you are one of the "little guys".
I imagine it goes the same for Queen & GEC. I hope they can both benefit from each other.
 
FLymon said:
In my line of work you need friendly competitors. Especially when you are one of the "little guys".
I imagine it goes the same for Queen & GEC. I hope they can both benefit from each other.
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And the knife enthusiast should and will benefit from that (friendly) rivalry as well, imho.
 
Weeelllll ----, about this stainless steel thing ---. Stainless was first used on a pocket knife in the 1920's but it was not until after WW II that folders with stainless blades began showing up in any sort of numbers.
So Traditional ? Yes.
But not with anywhere near the history of ---- Thumbstuds !

roland
 
D2 isn't bottom level steel, it's better than 1095 which Queen also uses; but for Queen D2 is the steel in their bottom level knives. By bottom, I mean cheapest. It was a great thing when their basic line turned to D2. For many years now, having D2 blades in their cheapest knives is one reason to buy Queen over GEC, Case or Bear. However, D2 is not a "premium" steel for Queen, right now that has only been ATS34. Personally, I don't like D2...I like shiny knives :)
 
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