Glenn, I think you're right about the SFOs. When Queens were well made (10+ years ago) they were VERY well made, and had some fantastic bone, especially their different varieties of stag bone as shown by Dave. They were always underpriced back then. At the same time Queens with D2 were in the 40-50 dollar range, their Winchester and Moore Maker branded knives, with 1095, were at least twice the price.