Question about hunting rifles.....

Kiwi's went with the LMT as well as the Brits, we have the H&K and SR25 (on the way out as H&Ks are fielded).

Andy
 
I guess it doesn't have to be a bolt action. I have just always shot better for accuracy with a bolt action.

Garth

Not too long ago bolt actions reigned supreme for accuracy, but these days you've got plenty of semi-autos to choose from that can group just as good if not better than alot of bolt guns.

The only advantage that still ring true for bolt action over semi-auto are the following :

-Lighter weight (typically)
-More Affordable (typically)
-More reliable (typically)

I say typically because these are not always true when comparing certain models.

At the end of the day, you have to decide what is most important to you in the field.

There is no perfect/best rifle, despite what anybody says to the contrary....:rolleyes:

All rifles have their pros and cons so you must make a compromise that you can live with.:)
 
Fnar owners I have talked to say that up keep us labor intensive. The ruger is nice but it's 223 556 the OBR is in the same group as the MWS I've read several reviews where guys say with federal gold medal match their OBRs and MWSs got .25MOA groups
 
I have been looking at custom builds and holy crap there are tons of options. I may end up with more than one before this adventure is over.

Garth

Going custom lets you pick the ideal barrel profile/length for what you want. Lightweight barrels are great for one or two shots ... and you can look at fluting the barrel too if you want ultra light carrying ... then you can look at carbon fibre stocks ... and a custom trigger ... and when you select the scope and mounts the Gunsmith can fit the Length of Pull on the stock to your body ... maybe even give you "spacers" to accomodate for summer/winter clothing ... and you can pick the action of your choice and the OAL for the bullet with a custom reamer. This helps on calibres like the 6.5 x 55 where long thin bullets can be seated too far out to work in the mag if you are handloading and trying to get the bullet just into the lands on a SAMMI chambering.

For an ultra light rifle for Deer the 6.5 x 55 Swede is a good choice. Low recoil ... great sectional density ... great BC ...

I cull Deer over here at a "work" level so for me "multiple shot" capability v barrel weight is something I pay attention to. I want as light a rifle as possible but able to shoot 10 Deer in one sitting in a high seat or culling a herd in the hills. Too thin a barrel and the heat build up makes necking the Deer on a shot a bit hard to feel confident in if I am taking out a lot of Hinds.

I also like a two stage trigger option so I can use the set trigger for longer range shots but still have a normal trigger for use with gloves.

I also prefer quick release mounts so I can swap out a lighter scope for a larger magnification heavier scope if distance is required.

I travel to Scotland a lot to do this and find an over night sleeper train to be much more practical than a long drive and no sleep. So having a rifle which can be carried without attracting attention helps.

I use a Sauer 202 Take Down in 6.5 x 55 Ackley with a custom barrel ( send the reamer to Sauer and they will do you a custom chambering ) ... this enables me to use standard factory ammo if need be and custom handloads ideally ... I also have the benefit of swapping out the barrel and bolt to .375 H&H for Hogs and for Africa ...

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Fnar owners I have talked to say that up keep us labor intensive. The ruger is nice but it's 223 556 the OBR is in the same group as the MWS I've read several reviews where guys say with federal gold medal match their OBRs and MWSs got .25MOA groups

The FNAR is not user maintainable, which makes for a pretty crappy deal if you ask me.....

Basically, you have to send it in the FN Herstal every so often for routine maintainance.:grumpy:
 
Garth Reckner (op), for the money, buy the Tikka. Look at overall length. I believe the short actions just have magazine blocks.It has been awhile since I've dealt with this, but you might as well go with longer cartridges.
 
Those Kimbers are 100 percent custom quality in a production cost. They will easily out shoot your Remingtons unless you have them very heavily modified. There balance is amazing to the point where you forget you are even carrying it. I would highly suggest you give one a try.

Dang Pat,,, your gonna have to teach me how to shoot then, here is a stock Remington 700 .308 @ 100 during initial sight in with factory ammo, 6 shot group.
 

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Very nice setup Peter. I am loving my 6.5 Grendal (thanks for the suggestion). I have been reading a lot about the swede. Looks very promising for my next gun. :thumbup:
 
Peter, I always enjoy reading your posts.

Garth- Dicks sporting goods is selling Remington 700 ADL's in both long or short action for $439 with a $100 mail in rebate. That's a great price for the action alone. You may want to grab a couple so you have actions handy for building. I'll probably grab a couple just to have on standby for the next great bullet... I actually feel the need to build a little 300 Blackout for suppressed shooting fun...
 
Peter, I always enjoy reading your posts.

Garth- Dicks sporting goods is selling Remington 700 ADL's in both long or short action for $439 with a $100 mail in rebate. That's a great price for the action alone. You may want to grab a couple so you have actions handy for building. I'll probably grab a couple just to have on standby for the next great bullet... I actually feel the need to build a little 300 Blackout for suppressed shooting fun...
Thanks for the heads up. Gonna check that out for sure.

Garth
 
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