Question to sal glesser

RamZar said:
The issue is not that someone prefers to buy ONLY U.S. made knives but when they start preaching that somehow U.S. citizens who are NOT may be something less.
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I've never seen that in my 10 years here. Or have seen it so little that I can't remember the last time.

What I do see almost daily is people telling those that do only buy US why they should be buying foreign.
It almost has me wanting to start buying US only. Thats how much its been bugging me:p
 
RamZar said:
The issue is not that someone prefers to buy ONLY U.S. made knives but when they start preaching that somehow U.S. citizens who are NOT may be something less.
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Greykilt said:
This sentence is kind of hard to follow Ram, what are you trying to say here?
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Ken44 said:
I've never seen that in my 10 years here. Or have seen it so little that I can't remember the last time.

What I do see almost daily is people telling those that do only buy US why they should be buying foreign.
It almost has me wanting to start buying US only. Thats how much its been bugging me:p
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Ok Got It Now. Uhm I buy what works. Me being born in Scotland, my take on Nationalistic Pride may (and most certainly is) different than some of yours. To date I haven't found a SpyderCo made in Alba but the moment I do.....
 
Ken44 said:
I've never seen that in my 10 years here. Or have seen it so little that I can't remember the last time.

What I do see almost daily is people telling those that do only buy US why they should be buying foreign.
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I've seen you post this almost word for word the last go round when someone else mentioned what RamZar said lol. Make no mistake about it, some of these "I buy USA ONLY" posts alludes that they are some sort of better American just like OP is suggesting that Spyderco is a lesser company for dealing with human beings from other countries...And while they aren't telling anyone to do anything, the tone and mood of these "I buy USA only" posts do carry a suggestion. We can all be better Americans though so more power to you.
 
I'm enjoying my Stretch with the super blue steel. Something I've never experienced before.;) :)
 
Fanglekai said:
I used to buy only US made knives. I thought Spydercos made in Taiwan shouldn't cost what they do. Then I bought a Sage 2. Then a Gayle Bradley. Then a Domino. They could be made on Mars or in whatever country for all I care. The F&F is very good with only very minor cosmetic issues that I can point out. Spyderco has some really nice models made in various countries.
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Sorry, I draw the line at knives from Mars. Labor costs are too high, and shipping is a killer. :o
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi ZeroTurnDude,

Spyderco has a somewhat unique buinsess model that is based on a set of core values developed over many years of doing business. We have a network of makers that we've been working for many years. Quality, loyalty, constant improvement and fairness in all areas. We try to take good care of our staff, our customers, our vendors, community and country.

If we only made knives in the US, we would have far fewer knives to offer.

We began making knives in Japan after Al Mar introduced us to his maker. We were after quality steel and quality construction. Quality and materials we couldn't find in the US. In time we began a US factory and introduced USA made powdered metals to the knife market. As years went on, we added a few makers here and there that would meet our quality needs. We have 3 makers in Japan (2 we've been working with for 33 years and 1 for 26 years. 2 in Taiwan, 2 in Italy and 4 in China, though we don't do too much in China.

I agree that we need to build more in America, but not just knives. Our mfg base has diminished here in the US and I believe it is essential that we focus on mfg, education and honor more so than in curently being done. Just my opinion.

sal
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First I just want to say thank you sal for taking some time out your weekend and answering my question, Me and my dad own and operate a small sign business I can tell you we don't have hardly enough time to fart most days lol so I can imagine you don't get much time off running a company like that lol.

I'm glad that we agree that we need to built more here and yes not just knives, but I do hope to see more spyderco's made here in the US

I believe that if a lot the of the mfg that are owned and operated here but mfg there stuff overseas would stop focusing on building there stuff cheaper so they can make more of a profit (I'm not saying your doing that) and start focusing on manufacturing more stuff here at a lil less profit but with more US labor I think this country would be a lot better off then it is now but that's just my opinion.

I'd also like to say that the fact that you did take the time to answered my question shows me that you do care very much for your customers I respect that a lot.

I can also respect that you've stuck to you values of quality, customers, etc through I've never owned a spyderco (I do plan on getting a US made one) I have seen them and I do see the quality and care put in them no matter where it's was made.


ZTD.
 
Sal Glesser said:
I believe that both points of view have validity. I think that we need to take care of people in our own country first, and that can be done in many ways. If our economy was doing well and most could purchase what they wanted without counting pennies, the attitude might be different. But we don't want to be blinded to what is also offered abroad. Like most things, a balance is desired.

It's also important that in a global economy, the players follow a basic set of rules. Right now we're having difficulties with Copies and counterfeits made in China with also affects attitudes.

sal
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Totally agree.

ZTD
 
ZTD, i recommend a Manix2, Native, or a Para2. All made in the states and all are great (I own several of each, and have used them).
 
If a knife is made well, and with quality materials, I don't care where it comes from. That said, a couple of my favorite knives are Spydercos from Taiwan. I challenge anyone to find a better value in terms of materials, design, engineering, warranty, fit/finish, and performance, than a Spyderco Gayle Bradley. The knife that beats it will most likely be a Spyderco anyway.
 
I had a chance to buy an authentic Shibumi katana circa 1678 but when I found out it was made in Japan I said "Forget It!"
 
Greykilt said:
I had a chance to buy an authentic Shibumi katana circa 1678 but when I found out it was made in Japan I said "Forget It!"
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That was probably a good choice. It would have been far inferior the the arrowheads being made in America at the same time. You really dodged a bullet.
 
Ken44 said:
People never catch heat for buying foreign, but mention you only by American and people will really jump on you here at BF.
I find it very odd that many feel the need to tell others how to buy, but it's been that way for a while.
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+1 And I just wondering why?
fetzer85 said:
however you cannot prove to me that US made knives are better...it's just your opinion.
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Probably you are correct. This will be hard, may be even impossible to proof. For me buying American is not only about quality.
Sal Glesser said:
I think that we need to take care of people in our own country first,
sal
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For me it is about this
Thank you Sal
 
I guess you guys are never going to stop getting your panties into a twist over where a knife is made. It most be part of American xenophobia. As a Canadian I of course do not suffer from this complex. If I did I'd have about two knifes because virtually no production knives are made in Canada. As it is I happily buy knives I like, made in China, Taiwan, Japan, Germany and yes, the good old USA.
 
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Sal Glesser said:
I agree that we need to build more in America, but not just knives. Our mfg base has diminished here in the US and I believe it is essential that we focus on mfg, education and honor more so than is currently being done. Just my opinion.

sal
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My hat is off to you, Sal. Our country's honor could "come back" through focused education in our schools. And, with proper education, perhaps we could rejuvenate this country into the wonderful place that it once was. Sal, it is no wonder that I'm such a Spydie fan-boy. Is there any chance that you might throw your hat in the ring for President of the U.S.? Our country really needs someone with your morals, world-view and value-system.
Don aka Sonnydaze
 
The only knife I wouldn't buy is if it's made in China. Almost everything I own is made in China and if it's one thing that I will never own is a knife made in China.
Good day sir! :D
 
Buy what you want from where you want.
Spyderco has knives made many places...except in Windsor, Ontario, Canada.

Come on Sal, we need the jobs! And I'll work for minimum wage plus vacation pay to be paid in knives. :)
 
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