Question to sal glesser

[UndertheFloorboards]

I had a chance to buy an authentic Shibumi katana circa 1678 but when I found out it was made in Japan I said "Forget It!"

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That was probably a good choice. It would have been far inferior the the arrowheads being made in America at the same time. You really dodged a bullet.

Hilarious.

 

[UndertheFloorboards]

Why is most spyderco's ...snip... that overseasspyderco's has bad quality or anything I'm just asking why.

I agree that we need to build more in America, but not just knives. Our mfg base has diminished here in the US and I believe it is essential that we focus on mfg, education and honor more so than in curently being done. Just my opinion.

sal

I agree we need to focus more on education. I'm not proud that I'm pointing out the OP's grammar (note honor is not in bold ) but ...

 

[Sonnydaze]

People that buy only American don't tell other people they should only buy American.
They may say they only buy American, but they don't tell others how they should buy.

Well, Ken, then you don't have any friends or relatives who have worked/retired from Generous Motors or DePoint (who supplied their paint for years). They drank the kool-aid for too many years...and of course, most of these folks have their retirement tied up in these companies...
And to think that these folks actually thought that these vehicles were made in America...it's rather sad. To be fair, there was a time...a very long time ago...
I have both friends and relatives who have, in the past, refused to ride to lunch with my wife and I in our new "-ap-crap." Personally, I have happily driven vehicles with oriental company name-plates for many years...
It's not so offensive as to cause the loss of a life-long relationship, but it does come close... Make no mistake.

 

[Sal Glesser]

Hi UndertheFloorboards,

Welcome to our forum.

sal

 

[The Deacon]

I've never seen that in my 10 years here. Or have seen it so little that I can't remember the last time.

What I do see almost daily is people telling those that do only buy US why they should be buying foreign.
It almost has me wanting to start buying US only. Thats how much its been bugging me

Well Ken, I've been here about as long as you and over the years I've seen quite a few threads on this forum and the Spyderco factory forum where "you are taking the food out of the mouths of American workers families if you don't buy only knives made in the USA", while not spelled out, is strongly and obviously implied. But perhaps we both see what we want to see (or what irks us the most) and disregard the rest.

I'll just add that what I find really ironic is when some of the same folks who want everything Spyderco makes to be made here, want some of the existing US made models to use foreign steel.

 

[SpydrMan]

I'm wondering, those people who will only buy a US made knife, where their car, TV, computer, phone, and appliances are made?

 

[The Deacon]

I'm wondering, those people who will only buy a US made knife, where their car, TV, computer, phone, and appliances are made?

The rational answer to that is that with some things, like knives, you have a choice. With others, the choice either does not exist or is a lot less clear. Is a BMW X-5, built right here in South Carolina less American, or more American, than car with an American marque that's assembled in Canada or Mexico. Both use parts, and even sub-assemblies built elsewhere. With computers, about the best you could possibly hope for is one that's assembled in the US using parts various other nations.

IMHO, there's no "right" or "wrong" here. I can respect someone in the USA who chooses to buy only products made here when it is possible to do so. I can even respect someone who only does so when there is little or no extra cost involved. What irks me is when someone implies that, by not doing so, I'm a "bad guy" or can't accept that the downside of having principles that only allow them to purchase US made knives is that the knife they covet the most may be made elsewhere.

 

[mattmanyam]

Does anybody else appreciate the irony that Spyderco started manufacturing overseas, brought manufacturing here, is increasing their facility here, yet still gets heat for it??

I get where the general grumbling comes from... the many that started here, then, greedily took their labor overseas, but it seems to me that Spyderco is the complete opposite of this business plan... yet gets WAY more heat than another manufacturer that makes a significant percentage of knives overseas, and is also owned by a foreign company...think about that.

 

[wolf-man-12]

I do love my Spyderco Knives ~~ everyone of them and I do have a "few" !! lol
To me it is all in the Eyes of the beholder ~~ plus the fact that I don't really care where a Knife is made as long as I like it
then I will buy it no matter where said Knife is made.! #1-Spyderco.!**

 

[Lee48]

I'm wondering, those people who will only buy a US made knife, where their car, TV, computer, phone, and appliances are made?

The components used in the manufacture of these and other products come from all over the world. GM doesn't make every part used in their cars. Neither does Toyota, Hyundai, BMW or Audi. Even knives might have parts and raw materials from overseas.

These days, it is highly unlikely you will be able to buy anything that is 100% US-made, German-made, Japanese-made, Chinese-made, etc.

 

[SpydrMan]

The components used in the manufacture of these and other products come from all over the world. GM doesn't make every part used in their cars. Neither does Toyota, Hyundai, BMW or Audi. Even knives might have parts and raw materials from overseas.

These days, it is highly unlikely you will be able to buy anything that is 100% US-made, German-made, Japanese-made, Chinese-made, etc.

My point exactly.

 

[rljohns]

I am a huge fan of the Japanese VG-10 steel. I have several from Endura, Police, Civilian, Matriarch, and Delica. I do not buy any Chinese made knives from any brand. I might try a Taiwanese made knife if the opportunity popped up. I just haven't ran into a Taiwanese knife I liked yet.

 

[Stays Sharp]

Does anybody else appreciate the irony that Spyderco started manufacturing overseas, brought manufacturing here, is increasing their facility here, yet still gets heat for it??

I get where the general grumbling comes from... the many that started here, then, greedily took their labor overseas, but it seems to me that Spyderco is the complete opposite of this business plan... yet gets WAY more heat than another manufacturer that makes a significant percentage of knives overseas, and is also owned by a foreign company...think about that.

Powerful post.

 

[calc]

Does anybody else appreciate the irony that Spyderco started manufacturing overseas, brought manufacturing here, is increasing their facility here, yet still gets heat for it??

I get where the general grumbling comes from... the many that started here, then, greedily took their labor overseas, but it seems to me that Spyderco is the complete opposite of this business plan... yet gets WAY more heat than another manufacturer that makes a significant percentage of knives overseas, and is also owned by a foreign company...think about that.

It is indeed unfortunate. Not only that, but there seems to be this assumption that anything made overseas should be dirt cheap, even when premium materials are used and impeccable quality is reached. But it is what it is, and most of those people won't change their mind no matter what.

 

[adamg01]

If someone is shallow enough to judge a Spyderco by the origin and not the build quality, they shouldn't by Spyderco.

I think it's funny that you can get an American made Manix with G10 and S30v steel for the same price as a BM Grip.