Quick question about a situation with USPS

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Around February 7th or 8th I sold a kershaw skyline to another forum member in Washington state. The package was sent priority with tracking in a flat rate box, which includes the 50.00 insurance that is standard. I kept an eye on the tracking and saw that the package was marked as delivered a few days later. I emailed they buyer and asked if he had recieved it, and he told me something to the effect of, yes, it had been delivered and he would be picking it up that evening or the next day from his po box. I kept the shipping recipt for about 2 weeks as I do with all my sales, just to be sure that he was happy with the blade and that there were no issues. There was nothing eles from the buyer, so I figured everything was good (as it should have been since the knife was LNIB). Almost 45 days later, he emailed me and told me that he had just gotten around to checking his po box, and that the package was torn open and there was a letter from usps, which he sent me a picture of, about claiming property lost in transit. I let him know that I would have like to have known sooner than a month and a half later, and doing what I felt was the right thing, I refunded his money within 10 minutes of recieving his email. I had already trashed the recipet as it had been a month and a half since it was marked as delivered and had heard nothing from the buyer. I have contacted usps facilities where the letter indicated that lost items are housed and of course, no luck. When I inquired about filing an insurance claim, each person with the usps I spoke with told me I was basically out of luck because of the time that had elapsed, and they asked why I had waited so long to report it. I explained the situation to each of them, and that was basically that.

Just curious as to what ya'll would have done to resolve the situation with the seller around 45 days after the sale when they never spoke a peep about a problem?

And, am I just SOL since I no longer have the recipt of shipment and insurance, and am being stonewalled when inquiring about filing an insurance claim ; (i.e. "Sure you can file a claim, good luck with that, lol."

I am glad that I am only out 45.00 dollars but it still irks me that there was not a peep from the buyer for so long after delivery.
TauuaT was the buyer, and now that I look, with one post, and no feedback, maybe I should be more careful who I sell too. Communication doesnt seem to be his strong point.
 
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I just saw on a USPS site that you have up to 60 days to file a domestic claim.
 
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I just saw on a USPS site that you up to 60 days to file a domestic claim.

Excellent, thank you. I am going to go ahead and get on that Monday then. I have never been through this before; like I said, I no longer have the recipt. Will that be an issue?
 
You are a better man than me............... I don't believe I would have sent him a refund.
 
They would accept a copy of a dealer web page that shows the knife and the value. You can file the claim online.
 
That is somewhat irresponsible and lazy to an extent (at first glance) not to check a PO Box for over a month. I mean, there is someone hanging on the other end that would like confirmation that a parcel was delivered safe and sound. I take pictures of my receipts, and name the files accordingly. You could also scan them.
 
That is somewhat irresponsible and lazy to an extent (at first glance) not to check a PO Box for over a month. I mean, there is someone hanging on the other end that would like confirmation that a parcel was delivered safe and sound. I take pictures of my receipts, and name the files accordingly. You could also scan them.

Thank you for the suggestions. I will backing up photos of the receipts from now on. I feel as though there is a chance I may have been taken. Not just the package being there, but who doesn't check their mail for 45 days? Something just seemed fishy to me. Oh well, like I said, at least it was only 45 bucks.
 
When I received an opened package there was no letter enclosed. The box had been resealed with official USPS tape that said something like, "item lost in transit".

Are you sure the letter is legitimate?
 
When I received an opened package there was no letter enclosed. The box had been resealed with official USPS tape that said something like, "item lost in transit".

Are you sure the letter is legitimate?

Yeah, It looked legit. 3 pages of forms for him to fill out so that he could try and recover the item. Description informantion and such. That is the first time I had seen a small flat rate box come apart though. I have recieved lots of knives that have been shipped in them, and obviously been beat in the mail. Just not my luck, turns out this is actually the only time I have ever used a flat rate box. Anyone who has purchased from me will tell you I tend to OVERsecure. Brown box, lots of bubblewrap, foam, and tape, and address in big sharpie writing. I was out of town when I mailed it and didnt have access to my packaging supplies. It will be the last time I use a flat rate box.
 
The reason that I refunded the money was that last year I had a trade with an awesome member here (miltmaldo). My knife arrived there, but his did not show here, even though it was marked as delievered to me. He, without prompting, sent me the value of my knife, and he took the hit. The knife was turned back in 9 days later, and I was able to send his money back. He was a real stand up guy about the situation though, and I thought I would follow his example.
 
Absolutely correct to refund him. It sucks that he didn't get back to you sooner but he didn't actually receive the knife. Usps should make good on the insurance for you and you did the right and honorable thing. It just shows your a stand up dependable guy and insures that anyone who does business with you is in good hands.
 
I would have waited on the insurance money before I paid him the refund. If he wants to wait over a month to check the box, then he can wait a few more days until USPS sorts it out and gets you your money back.
 
In any case, it's done now. I will be perusing the insurance claim come Monday. Thank you all for the input.
 
Another suggestion that comes from the supermod Esav - keep all receipts in a shoebox and it will be years before you will need another one. I diligently follow this advice and accumulate all usps receipts - in a shoebox.

Good luck with the insurance claim. Out of curiosity - can you post the USPS letter (with personal details obscured)?
 
I dont want to post it in the thread because my MS paint skills are non existant to blur stuff out, but PM me and we can work something out
 
I've shipped dozens of high end william henry knives in small flat rate boxes and never had a problem. I DO tape the hell out of the boxes using the clear packing tape, makes the entire box more rigid.
 
I've shipped dozens of high end william henry knives in small flat rate boxes and never had a problem. I DO tape the hell out of the boxes using the clear packing tape, makes the entire box more rigid.


I totally agree, like I said, I have recieved many high end knives in flat rate boxes. I just normally use square thick brown cardboard boxes with lots of reinforced backing tape as well as clear tabe. At the shop when we get large billets of aluminium they come with quarter square molded foam on the corners, I use these in the corner of my brown boxes to reinforce them, as well as protect the knife. Below is how all the packages I send out have been packed (except this instance, while out of town). Not knocking flat rate boxes, but I will just stick with what is proven for me.


Tape around the entire box, packed in solid foam, bubbe wrap, and factory knife box (if I have it), and address in large sharpie (covered in tape so water cannot affect it)
 
I had USPS claim to have delivered a package recently, but the customer never actually received it. I ended up replacing $200 worth of holster and mag pouch out of pocket because the USPS would not honor the insurance. It is my experience that they will do virtually anything to avoid paying a claim.

I relate this experience to share one key point: Demand a signature. USPS' excuse for not honoring the claim was that since it was marked "Delivered", it was delivered and therefore they have no responsibility to pay a claim. The fact that they "delivered" it to the wrong place seems irrelevant to them....

From this point forward, I ship everything out of my shop "Signature Confirmation" and always tape the crap out of every box.
 
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