Quick question regarding Chinese clones.

[bodog]

The user feedback seems all positive. It isn't a fake being passed off as real, so everyone knew what they were getting.

Man, you are close to understanding but not quite there yet. You've already said you want a counterfeit then right after that you said you wanted to buy a user CRK, refurbish it and resell it. Why wouldn't you buy a counterfeit for 40 dollars and turn around and sell it for 250 on ebay? You talk about good reviews and whatnot bit most of those reviews are from people who got conned and didn't even know it. Who's to say you won't start doing the same? I can be sympathetic to people with little money buying a clone or generic version of an unpatented product but the CRK counterfeits are just that illegal counterfeits. You're dangerously on the line of becoming a sheister and that's what is really bugging you, not the knife itself. You are using your dad's immoral views to justify ripping someone off and that doesn't entirely sit right with you. If, and only if, you can find a replica without the CRK branding on it, then stay away. It's immoral and you know it regardless of what your father says. Time to stand up and get out of your father's shadow if he advocates theft and robbery and it'll keep you from struggling with the thought of selling the counterfeit knife later on as the real deal. But a Kershaw. Buy a spyderco. Buy an OKC. Hell, buy a clone that makes itself obvious its not a counterfeit. Just don't buy a counterfeit, you know it's wrong. Don't buckle to those who pressure you into doing wrong, even of its your family. At some point you have to stand up and Be your own man. Be an honorable one.

 

[Schakalicious]

Man, you are close to understanding but not quite there yet. You've already said you want a counterfeit then right after that you said you wanted to buy a user CRK, refurbish it and resell it. Why wouldn't you buy a counterfeit for 40 dollars and turn around and sell it for 250 on ebay? You talk about good reviews and whatnot bit most of those reviews are from people who got conned and didn't even know it. Who's to say you won't start doing the same? I can be sympathetic to people with little money buying a clone or generic version of an unpatented product but the CRK counterfeits are just that illegal counterfeits. You're dangerously on the line of becoming a sheister and that's what is really bugging you, not the knife itself. You are using your dad's immoral views to justify ripping someone off and that doesn't entirely sit right with you. If, and only if, you can find a replica without the CRK branding on it, then stay away. It's immoral and you know it regardless of what your father says. Time to stand up and get out of your father's shadow if he advocates theft and robbery and it'll keep you from struggling with the thought of selling the counterfeit knife later on as the real deal. But a Kershaw. Buy a spyderco. Buy an OKC. Hell, buy a clone that makes itself obvious its not a counterfeit. Just don't buy a counterfeit, you know it's wrong. Don't buckle to those who pressure you into doing wrong, even of its your family. At some point you have to stand up and Be your own man. Be an honorable one.

My dad doesn't advocate theft or anything like that. He told me the story about how he got it. It was his uncle's, who passed away not so long ago. He (my dad's uncle) unknowingly purchased it thinking it was real, and always wore it as his favorite watch. When he passed, it was in his will to give it to my dad. It reminds him of his uncle and is now his favorite watch, just for that reason. I agree that me wanting to buy a counterfeit sebenza is wrong, but to call my dad a thief is not the right thing to say. He just suggested getting a "replica" or whatever, because he didn't realize it was stealing from Chris Reeve's designs. He isn't a knife knut like you guys. I've learned my lesson, and the pricing on used ones really isn't too bad. I'll probably wait until I move out, then get it for myself. I'm turning 18 in 3 or so years, and am interested in serving, so I may get one as a present to myself if I do stay committed to whatever I end up doing. Before you guys go, is there anywhere that I can reliably purchase a used sebenza 21 small, without the risk of getting a counterfeit?

 

[The Aflac Duck]

You're 15 and want a Sebenza? Why not use that money towards a car when you turn 16?

I'm 24 and only started getting into $250-$1,000 knives about a year or two ago. Before that, $200 was a lot for me. Do you have a checking/savings account? Do you work? When I was 17, I worked, but I was a minimum wage slave and a Sebenza was only a dream...

 

[155440]

You're 15 and want a Sebenza? Why not use that money towards a car when you turn 16?

I'm 24 and only started getting into $250-$1,000 knives about a year or two ago. Before that, $200 was a lot for me. Do you have a checking/savings account? Do you work? When I was 17, I worked, but I was a minimum wage slave and a Sebenza was only a dream...

He could live in the city where a car isn't as important? Anyway, money builds up fast if you're working a full time summer job and you have 0 expenses, even at minimum wage.

 

[brancron]

A lot of incredibly rude and self-righteous posts in this thread.

 

[bld522]

Yep. I thought about weighing in but now I think I'll stay out of the kitchen. Still, I can't help but be amazed at those who are willing to stick their heads in the oven. I'm just waiting to see how long it will take for a mod to come along and adjust the thermostat.

 

[Quiet]

A lot of incredibly rude and self-righteous posts in this thread.

It's a thread about counterfeits, how did you expect it to go? LOL

 

[kniferbro]

It's a thread about counterfeits, how did you expect it to go? LOL

Well many in his thread have already had umpteen run ins with Shaka. I'll have to agree that he's not making the best impression here on BF but the best way to make him go away is to ignore him. Instead his threads get 5+ pages in less than 24 hours. I wish my threads got that much traffic