Random Thought Thread

yoko yoko if I may offer advice: put a statement in an email to HR and CC every manager you can. Emails are admissable in court and this gives you a record that the Company has been advised. Ask your co-workers to do the same as there is strength in numbers.

If Management continues to do nothing, I would recommend a walk-off due to the unsafe work conditions. Nothing brings more attention to a problem than a work stoppage. Due to the instability of this coworker, I would genuinely fear retribution, which may help in convincing said employer to allow for CCW on site, if it is not permissible currently.

All in all, I hope you all stay safe and this is resolved quickly.
 
benchrest308 said:
yoko yoko if I may offer advice: put a statement in an email to HR and CC every manager you can. Emails are admissable in court and this gives you a record that the Company has been advised. Ask your co-workers to do the same as there is strength in numbers.

If Management continues to do nothing, I would recommend a walk-off due to the unsafe work conditions. Nothing brings more attention to a problem than a work stoppage. Due to the instability of this coworker, I would genuinely fear retribution, which may help in convincing said employer to allow for CCW on site, if it is not permissible currently.

All in all, I hope you all stay safe and this is resolved quickly.
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Agreed the ccw part will be brought up in my meeting with HR , it's the honest truth we don't feel safe at work and don't know what this guy is capable of

The email advice is some thing I never thought of, thank you!
 
On an unrelated story I've been carrying my UF2 , yesterday I was getting some thing out of my pocket and our estimate writer (25 year old nice kid from Michigan who likes to hunt etc) walks up

He knows I sharpen and have a few knives etc....he asks if he can see it (me thinking he hunts he has knife experience) I said yea sure.....

As he un clicks the knife from the sheath..... he sticks his thumb out (the hand on the sheath) and drags the sharpened edge along his thumb as he's pulling the knife out...... blood everywhere and he had to leave to get 6 stitches

He came back to talk to me after the urgent care visit and knew it was his fault, I said wtf Australian rules for you, he laughed and said he wasn't thinking and why was my knife so sharp lol
 
yoko said:
Agreed the ccw part will be brought up in my meeting with HR , it's the honest truth we don't feel safe at work and don't know what this guy is capable of

The email advice is some thing I never thought of, thank you!
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I hope yall have reported it to the police or sheriff. They need to have a report about the guy on file. At least it seems to me that they should.
 
In all honesty I would like to see the guy get some mental help

But the past few weeks everyone had seen a steep decline and him becoming more and more irrational

I talked him into going to a therapist before and he went and was put on meds, but then started acting way off , sold his car to buy a Walmart bike, saying off the wall stuff , and manic moments becoming worse and worse and more erratic

I think he was on meds said I'm fine , cold turkey went off the meds and it's thrown him for a loop now
 
I used to help this guy out, let him stop by my house for food, he even stayed at my house for a week to watch my dog


That's what makes this all scarier to me

Odd thing is I am the 1 person in the shop he hasn't been aggressive to yet... but I don't know how long that will last
 
I would tell them I'm taking a leave of absence until the situation is resolved, and if they threaten termination, counter with threat of wrongful termination lawsuit. No way in this day and age that they shouldn't be taking that shit serious.
 
More unsolicited advice: yoko yoko , you think you and your coworkers should walk down to the nearest precinct and file a complaint? What good that it will do, I don't know but I would think, with the current optics, it would force the cops to do something.
Looks like your management is slow walking things and let's see say they even come to a decision soon, and fire this guy...then what? All of you would still be looking over your shoulders for sometime. You maybe better equipped to deal with that, but what about your co workers? Maybe Blues Blues can clean up my suggestion...
 
I dunno about this whole ccw business. Taking out a threat with your gun is only one potential outcome. There are so many other potential outcomes though, especially in a workplace where everyone is on edge and where some carry guns and others don't. I know how it is down there, but there is so much that can go wrong in a situation like you describe and I'm not convinced that more firearms in the workplace would guarantee the best potential outcome.
 
vkp78 said:
More unsolicited advice: yoko yoko , you think you and your coworkers should walk down to the nearest precinct and file a complaint? What good that it will do, I don't know but I would think, with the current optics, it would force the cops to do something.
Looks like your management is slow walking things and let's see say they even come to a decision soon, and fire this guy...then what? All of you would still be looking over your shoulders for sometime. You maybe better equipped to deal with that, but what about your co workers? Maybe Blues Blues can clean up my suggestion...
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It seems to me that filing a police report will aid in suing the company for negligent homicide in case the guy does murder someone. I'm not a lawyer but filing a report sure couldn't hurt.
 
I've been staring at this dying/dead cottonwood(?) for the last 8 months and all I can think is how much I need a cpk axe in my life.

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Lorien said:
I dunno about this whole ccw business. Taking out a threat with your gun is only one potential outcome. There are so many other potential outcomes though, especially in a workplace where everyone is on edge and where some carry guns and others don't. I know how it is down there, but there is so much that can go wrong in a situation like you describe and I'm not convinced that more firearms in the workplace would guarantee the best potential outcome.
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I agree 100 percent I am not law enforcement or military, I have never been and hope never in my life to be in a live fire situation

But this is what is keeping me from just saying f it and leaving, the manager is retiring soon, the assistant manager will be manager and is the best person I've have ever worked with

The work environment has been the best I've ever had until this guy has started mentally becoming worse

It's a stupid situation and I shouldn't be in it , I'm definitely taking notes and talking to co workers on all advice given here
 
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