Random Thought Thread

tinfoil hat timmy said:
if gravity is so weak then how did planets form? the bigger a mass, the stronger the gravity right?

So, theoretically, the density of the earth would dictate that its gravity be stronger than other less massive things like gas particles right?

Why would planets form via gravity if there are other more powerful forces at work keeping gas particles from gravitating toward the higher density of the earth's core?

What stopped gravity from taking everything in to the earth's core? At what point did it stop?

I HAVE QUESTIONS
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Other forces are more important when considering just two molecules, but if you get enough mass swirling around then it will start to collect. What is observed is the balanced result of all relevant forces.
 
Richard338 said:
Other forces are more important when considering just two molecules, but if you get enough mass swirling around then it will start to collect. What is observed is the balanced result of all relevant forces.
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what other forces are more important?

how did the first two molecules connect to form something with more mass if there were more important forces at work?

why didn't those more important forces keep that from happening?
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
if gravity is so weak then how did planets form? the bigger a mass, the stronger the gravity right?

So, theoretically, the density of the earth would dictate that its gravity be stronger than other less massive things like gas particles right?

Why would planets form via gravity if there are other more powerful forces at work keeping gas particles from gravitating toward the higher density of the earth's core?

What stopped gravity from taking everything in to the earth's core? At what point did it stop?

I HAVE QUESTIONS
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Let me answer your question with a question:

Have you ever been to a concert with a mosh pit? When the performers appear onstage and the fans rush to the front, why don't they all meld into a single big blob of flesh?
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
what other forces are more important?

how did the first two molecules connect to form something with more mass if there were more important forces at work?

why didn't those more important forces keep that from happening?
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The main interaction between molecules at long range are electrostatics, induction, and dispersion. My student wrote a code to model it if you're interested!
 
benchrest308 said:
sgt1372 sgt1372 I would have to disagree. I believe discussion of these taboo subjects are paramount to further progress. If we all keep to our collective bubbles, our tribes, then we continue the trend of non-acceptance of other thought or believe due to the confirmation bias our own groups give us.

From my personal experience, 95% of people I have had these conversations with have not only remained civil, but also provoked further investigation of my own beliefs. If one can show they can conceed to a point based on its merit, the other individual figuratively "lights up" at the acceptance.

I really enjoy talking politics and religion as there is no right answer. So long as one can understand both individual beliefs are incorrect fundamentally, then a good discussion is bound to follow.
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We'll have to agree to disagree.

I've NEVER learned anything from anyone who was entrenched in their opinion about anything, regardless of the topic.

I only end up frustrated and exasperated by the refusal of the other person to accept any other POV and to defend their own POV regardless of any "evidence" to the contrary.

An utter waste of time IMO.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I'm not saying this is the only way that a society advances. But if it's not war, defense etc, and it's not for a profit motive and a consequence of capitalism, sometimes advancement is done just for the sake of advancement. Space exploration and NASA is one of the coolest things that humanity is doing and in the big picture doesn't really cost anybody much of anything.
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But I have to say . . . if there is no such thing as gravity, and the Earth is flat . . . then all this science hooey (including NASA) does seem like a giant waste of money that could be better spent just buying a few cases of beer for everyone.
 
bluemax_1 said:
Let me answer your question with a question:

Have you ever been to a concert with a mosh pit? When the performers appear onstage and the fans rush to the front, why don't they all meld into a single big blob of flesh?
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I dont know. isn't that what gravity is supposed to do? I cant explain why it doesnt work in that situation can you?
 
Richard338 said:
The main interaction between molecules at long range are electrostatics, induction, and dispersion. My student wrote a code to model it if you're interested!
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how did the first two molecules connect to form something with more mass if there were more important forces at work?

why didn't those more important forces keep that from happening?

was it electrostatics, induction, and dispersion that caused things to group together?
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I don't think a 60 million a day is going to be a drop in the bucket for any kind of universal health care. Nor are you going to solve homelessness and hunger. There is already a ton of money spent on the social safety nets, and at a certain point you got to spend money on other stuff too.

The moral argument against spending money on something that does not directly help people in need doesn't work for me
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Yeah, $24 billion. For universal health care. Not enough 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 in the world for that math-challenged proposal. That's about $72 per person per year. My insurance premium for the two of us is about $600 a month, and that is with a $6000 annual deductible.

Total spending on healthcare in the US per person was $12,531 in 2020. Compare that to seven-ty-two dollars.

But, no, I cannot "prove" that 72 is less than 0.5% of 12,531 any more than I can prove that gravity exists, or that the moon is not actually made of cheese.

At some point, these suggestions become insulting, and challenge civility on their very face.
 
Casinostocks said:
Trust me, have a beer instead... I am all for reading but I will prescribe a cold beer in this case and let's repeat for the nth time that I have become a teetotaler!
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That sounds nice. Unfortunately still on the road for another 2 ½ hours. Plus, after having a few beers I might be more inclined to ask questions/make comments that in the interest of maintaining cpk sub decorum I'd prefer to not do. 😉
 
Speaking of gravity, has anyone been to Mystery Spot in California? Gravity is way messed up there. I'm not sure who this guy is, but take his word for it. ;)
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I will be able to tell my children that once upon a time, a long time ago, there was moderation in politics and the two sides could see one another's points of view and even if they disagreed over something they could at least see the other person's perspective and compromises could be made which, overall, worked out to the betterment of both sides.

... those were days
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Nathan the Machinist said:
I will be able to tell my children that once upon a time, a long time ago, there was moderation in politics and the two sides could see one another's points of view and even if they disagreed over something they could at least see the other person's perspective and compromises could be made which, overall, worked out to the betterment of both sides.

... those were days
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