OTOH, in the right place, they fly off the shelves. I'm in several of the Bark River-related groups on Facebook where their main presence is. I won two of their Gunny Folders in a raffle in December. Posted a big thread in the BRK Custom Shop group detailing (politely) all the quality issues with the ones I got (lock rock on both, complete lock failure on one, proud blade tips when closed, poor-quality carbon fiber pocket clips, etc.) with pictures and videos. I still had like five guys send me unsolicited messages asking if they could buy them from me.