Random Thought Thread

Richard338 said:
You may be right, broadly speaking, but I'm seeing some creative and powerful uses of AI in some research groups, that makes me more optimistic.
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I should clarify: though I am an AI skeptic, I am not anti-AI. It's application in the industry I work adjacent to is a game-changer, which is the case for many industries. My skepticism is largely borne by the everyday use of the average human. Heavy reliance on readily accessible data and tools that make short work of everyday tasks is already demonstrating cognitive impairment, with long-term impacts to be determined (it doesn't look good).

With anything really, there is an appropriate application, and then there is simple abuse.
 
Pàdruig said:
I should clarify: though I am an AI skeptic, I am not anti-AI. It's application in the industry I work adjacent to is a game-changer, which is the case for many industries. My skepticism is largely borne by the everyday use of the average human. Heavy reliance on readily accessible data and tools that make short work of everyday tasks is already demonstrating cognitive impairment, with long-term impacts to be determined (it doesn't look good).

With anything really, there is an appropriate application, and then there is simple abuse.
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I'm mostly in agreement. It was much too early to release to general public. Of course, they did it to get attention and investments.

Just like the automobile helped to make people fat, AI will help to make them mentally lazy.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
Nate's second random thought for today

(we are exceeding our quota for the day)

I think we need to normalize ridiculing stupid things again.

Things were bad back then. When we were like that.

but they are definitely worse now

I think it was worth a try. But, like ethanol in gasoline, it really didn't work like we thought it would and maybe we should stop.
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Social pressure is for sure motivation for change.

No doubt in my mind.
 
Pàdruig said:
I should clarify: though I am an AI skeptic, I am not anti-AI. It's application in the industry I work adjacent to is a game-changer, which is the case for many industries. My skepticism is largely borne by the everyday use of the average human. Heavy reliance on readily accessible data and tools that make short work of everyday tasks is already demonstrating cognitive impairment, with long-term impacts to be determined (it doesn't look good).

With anything really, there is an appropriate application, and then there is simple abuse.
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And there are those who will figure out how to use it to maximum advantage, and many more who will simply use any/everything to allow them to be even lazier.
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
Social pressure is for sure motivation for change.

No doubt in my mind.
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No doubt whatsoever.

Local community used to provide a normalizing factor (sure it can be argued that there were both pros and cons to that).

If someone exhibited especially aberrant behaviors/mentalities, their local community/social group would simply go, “Dude… what the heck is wrong with you? That’s disgusting/nuts/not OK”.

With the connectivity of the internet now, no matter how odd/aberrant a particular viewpoint is, you can find likeminded people (and more than a few of those might not actually share those aberrant thoughts, but merely find it amusing to use the anonymity of the internet to egg on unstable individuals).
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
We should start calling people who don't think arming teachers is the right thing to racists.

What could go wrong?
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I think that terms like "racist" and "Nazi" get overused and have lost a lot of meaning and has ironically caused some people to accept these labels as a badge of honor. Which is probably not a good thing.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I think that terms like "racist" and "Nazi" get overused and have lost a lot of meaning and has ironically caused some people to accept these labels as a badge of honor. Which is probably not a good thing.
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If you've actually ever met a Nazi, (I have), or some truly virulent race haters, (I have via investigations), it will make your skin crawl.

(By "you've", I don't mean you personally.)
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I think that terms like "racist" and "Nazi" get overused and have lost a lot of meaning and has ironically caused some people to accept these labels as a badge of honor. Which is probably not a good thing.
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My point was misrepresented by my words I think.

The point being that the people against arming teachers would probably at least think of their stance if it meant they wouldn't be thought of as good people if they didn't.

 
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