RAT For Urban Survival?

I'd think the Izula and a good multitool would do anything that you would need in an urban environment.
 
For me, no matter what the survival scenerio, I go with a combo of the RC-4 and Leatherman Charge TTi. I used to EDC my RC-4 right next to my side arm, but recently switched to my new RP RC-3. However, when I took the RC-4 off my side, it immediately went into my day pack right next to my Leatherman, because if SHTF I still want my RC-4. For damn near anything, I think a good multitool will serve you better than just a regular knife, but sometimes you do need a more substantial blade and that's when the 4 shines. As far as having the ability to pry, I keep a small prybar in the pack too so I'm not planning on using a knife to do that job. I also always keep a folder in my pocket for little jobs like opening bags of chips, opening envelopes, cutting tape, picking my nose, etc.

Now, if you're keeping up, this means that if you see me at any point throughout the day, you can assume that I have my side arm, Leatherman, an RC-4, an RC-3, and a folder with me. Hopefully that will be enough to get me out of trouble.
 
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Dylside said:
For me, no matter what the survival scenerio, I go with a combo of the RC-4 and Leatherman Charge TTi. I used to EDC my RC-4, but recently switched to my new RP RC-3. However, when I took the RC-4 off my side, it immediately went into my day pack right next to my Leatherman, because if SHTF I still want my RC-4. For damn near anything, I think a good multitool will serve you better than just a regular knife, but sometimes you do need a more substantial blade and that's when the 4 shines. As far as having the ability to pry, I keep a small prybar in the pack too so I'm not planning on using a knife to do that job. I also always keep a folder in my pocket for little jobs like opening bags of chips, opening envelopes, cutting tape, picking my nose, etc.
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The man picks his nose with a knife:eek:. I only thought I was hardcore.
 
Cisco Kid said:
Urban survival = oxymoron.;)
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In many ways, I think that urban survival is actually more dangerous than wilderness survival. In the wilderness, you have only yourself and maybe a few others to keep up with. In an urban setting, all of a sudden you have hordes of people who each think, panic, and will cause you more trouble than help. The key in wilderness survival is to keep yourself alive. The key to urban survival is to not let some other dickhead get you killed.

The points could be argued either way. If you're on your own, you don't have the luxury of help from others. If you're surrounded by others and they want to save themselves at the detriment of anyone else, then you don't just have a benign force uncaring if you die, you have a thinking and calculating force that wants you dead. The wilderness doesn't want you to die. It doesn't care if you're there. It doesn't want anything that you have. People, on the other hand...

I think that there are a lot of good people for the most part and in an emergency, they are willing to help, BUT if you take that emergency and introduce pain, fear, and death into the equation, people will give up their morals and principals in exchange for self-preservation in a heartbeat. The average person is just too weak. I know we all like to think that we're strong, but take a group of men and put a gun to their stomach and tell them that either they get shot or their wife gets shot and watch how many of them fold out of fear. I'm not saying that this is the case with people here. Please don't think that I'm making assumptions about people who would read this thread. I'm talking about all of "them".

Wow. That turned into a rant quick. lol
 
Dylside,

Very interesting point. I actually have 3 aunts (er had, they passed away) because my uncles sacrificed themselves so they could get out of poland and germany with the kids. Not sure if the kids is what made them be able to do it or not. But I agree with you, I feel that way also to some extent. I ask myself if I could do what my uncles did or would I chicken out. To be honest I am going to be happy to just never find out:D

Something tells me with the way the world is messed up though we may not be that lucky, but that is a purely philosophy thought.\

I personally alternate with a ZT 350 folder and now days a RAT 1, man what good knife for the price. Got it for $27 new. I pack a RAT 4 in my max bag, I think its a jumbo not sure. And got some other stuff like a blanket, beef jerky:D A little paracord, camera, inhaler for my asthma (yup I am defective as I tell my wife)... got to look what else I put in it, oh yeah my CZ duty. Love that pistol. Now I need to work on my BOB, not sure what backpack to get for that.
 
arijer said:
Dylside,

Very interesting point. I actually have 3 aunts (er had, they passed away) because my uncles sacrificed themselves so they could get out of poland and germany with the kids. Not sure if the kids is what made them be able to do it or not. But I agree with you, I feel that way also to some extent. I ask myself if I could do what my uncles did or would I chicken out. To be honest I am going to be happy to just never find out:D

Something tells me with the way the world is messed up though we may not be that lucky, but that is a purely philosophy thought.\
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One more thing I'll add to what I said earlier. There are a million stories of great people making the ultimate sacrifice to save someone else, so I know that there are good people in the world who care about more than just themselves. On the other hand, most of those courageous people I've read or heard about, made a decision and carried out a plan that they knew might have disasterous consequences. They made a decision to put themselves in a dangerous situation in order to help their family or loved ones. Only a small minority of those heros made the brave decision on the spot when faced with the choice. I'm not saying those brave and honorable people don't exist. I'm just saying that when someone makes a selfish decision, well there's not much that makes a good story there, so you don't hear about them as much, but they are much more common.
 
Dylside said:
One more thing I'll add to what I said earlier. There are a million stories of great people making the ultimate sacrifice to save someone else, so I know that there are good people in the world who care about more than just themselves. On the other hand, most of those courageous people I've read or heard about, made a decision and carried out a plan that they knew might have disasterous consequences. They made a decision to put themselves in a dangerous situation in order to help their family or loved ones. Only a small minority of those heros made the brave decision on the spot when faced with the choice. I'm not saying those brave and honorable people don't exist. I'm just saying that when someone makes a selfish decision, well there's not much that makes a good story there, so you don't hear about them as much, but they are much more common.
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thats what I was sorta saying, I completely agree. I was not disagreeing. I was just making light of not having to be one to choose at this moment:D HOpe it stays that way.

Just out of curiousity, how do you guys that edc a big blade like a rc5 manage to do that? in a urban setting... I am impressed. I have a fit sometimes with carrying my .38 concealed, let alone a RC 5 :)... I am impressed.
 
Izula, cord wrapped, can't be beat for edc. its great. it rivals my small sebenza for general utility and usefulness. its not afood knife since i wiped it with a protective cloth.

on top of that a SAK, Alox soldier as a food knife. i also have a fire steel and whistle in my jacket pocket since i always seem to forget them when i go hiking.
 
This is a pretty interesting thread at this moment, mostly because we can look at Haiti and the pictures of what is happening there.... and imagine. A person I know is down there with the UN and so far she said there hasn't been any widespread looting reported, and most are still in a state of shock over the whole thing.

One thing I did do as a result of this thread was add a full size prybar to my EDC items at work. Just in case.....
 
Word! Jeff's thread about helping dude in the car wreck, reminded me of just how important it is to always have a prybar handy.
 
Dylside said:
Word! Jeff's thread about helping dude in the car wreck, reminded me of just how important it is to always have a prybar handy.
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Yup, I always carried one in my SUV, but I got one for the office. Why? Well the other day my door got stuck, had to really slam it to get it open.... got one door to the office, no windows, and I can't go over the walls, so if it is jammed, I am really stuck in place.
 
IZULA. With the handle on it, I can get a good grip. I can whack on it, do anything I need to do. It is my EDC.
 
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