RAT vs. Busse?

To each their own. Nothing has held an edge longer than my infi Busse. Nothing.
 
I have to say that my Hartsfield kozuka was a close second to the infi, as far as holding an edge.
Thanks Ank. :thumbup:
 
I've had good results with INFI and the SR-101 (modified 52100) of SRKW. Swamp Rat and Scrapyard are worth investigating. I don't own a RAT yet but they is on me radar. I would say just buy a Busse Combat Grade blade and be done with it but you will get hooked and hurt your finger and liver F5'ing. Not that that's a bad thing.
 
Lycosa said:
I have to say that my Hartsfield kozuka was a close second to the infi, as far as holding an edge.
Thanks Ank. :thumbup:
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No problem. :D

Ever try re-profiling a Busse? I did my CGFBM to a 40 degrees, even with diamond rods in my Sharpmaker it took forever but it was worth it. :thumbup:
 
Ankerson said:
Ever try re-profiling a Busse? I did my CGFBM to a 40 degrees, even with diamond rods in my Sharpmaker it took forever but it was worth it. :thumbup:
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That's not my experience at all; I re-profiled my HHFSH (and BATAC, and Meaner Street...) on a Lansky and it was a lot easier than reprofiling CPMS30V blades, or even CPM154. Hard to explain, but INFI has a smooth feeling under the stone.

Although I never re-profiled a RAT in 1095, I re-profiled blades made of 1075/1080 and they were a pleasure to work with as well.

YMMV
 
Lycosa said:
To each their own. Nothing has held an edge longer than my infi Busse. Nothing.
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That's what I was asking, for specifics on how Busses were "a little better." I couldn't tell if you meant their steel, their heat treatment, their handles, their warranty....;)

Regards,
3G
 
IMO Busse steel, heat treatment, and handles are superior to RAT Cutlery.
Busses perform up to their price.

RATs, however, perform above their price level, IMO, and are at the top of the 1095 game.

The two products are hard to compare, however, as both are made for and marketed to very different crowds.
 
defaultuser said:
That's not my experience at all; I re-profiled my HHFSH (and BATAC, and Meaner Street...) on a Lansky and it was a lot easier than reprofiling CPMS30V blades, or even CPM154. Hard to explain, but INFI has a smooth feeling under the stone.
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They don't have 10" blades like the BM does and it was only one side that really needed a lot of metal removed. :)
 
ipm said:
This may be a point to cause argument but...

If a rugged knife for camp/bush use was needed, would you recommend a Busse or a RAT Cutlery to someone who only wants one of the two and not both?

Is one manufacturer preferred, and which specific model?

What is the reason for your choice?

Both seem to be great knives.
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In hindsight, I believe that a more suitable question would have been "Would you recommend a RAT Cutlery or, a TOPS knife?" That would make more sense as comparing the performance of 1095 Vs. INFI would have been similar to, let's say, comparing 5160 to CMP3V!
Two highly reputable companies that both use 1095 steel (although TOPS knives use other steels in addition to 1095) and also have similar knives offered at similar price levels would make more sense.
 
Lycosa said:
To each their own. Nothing has held an edge longer than my infi Busse. Nothing.
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You need to try some other steels then.
S90v Zdp M4 even S30v also my swamp rat have all held there edges longer than INFI in my experience.
INFI is a great steel but not the mythical steel some make out.
I remember recievieng my first busse a GW after the 4 wk wait through customs ive never been so hyped about a knife but i was left slightly disapointed by this blade.And to be honest INFI.
Mine seemed to form a burr all the time that just flopped from side to side.
I would strop it out but it needed stropped after almost every use to stay shaving sharp.
Ive found the best steels for me in a small knife to be the stainless kind H1 is amazing stuff for example im not gonna use them to hard and i live in a place that rains alll day every day.
But for choppers INFI would be one of my top choices also like S7 and CPM 3V 52100 5160 A2 01 and 1095 is also a good comprimise but rusts a lot.
If you have the cash and want a small tough fixed blade i would go with a BRKT knife great knives at the price point and A2 or 12c 27 both great steels also useing some newer steels.If you want a big heavy chopper id go with Busse INFI S7 or 52100.As they beat 1095 no matter what the HT in so many areas.
 
Ankerson said:
Yep, INFI is extremely tough steel.
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But toughness and edge-holding are two different attributes.

balls said:
You need to try some other steels then.
S90v Zdp M4 even S30v also my swamp rat have all held there edges longer than INFI in my experience.
INFI is a great steel but not the mythical steel some make out.
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I agree. INFI definitely does not hold an edge as well as some of the other steels I have - CRK's S30V and BG and MD's 0-1 as examples. INFI also does not take as good an edge as some other steels. INFI is a better mix of toughness/keenness/retention/stain resistance, though, which is what makes it such a good choice for a go-to knife.
 
Has anyone mentioned Rat makes knives in both 1095 and D-2 steel,some of the posts do not I. D. the steel.
 
Andros said:
Busse's have offered certain models that are neither big nor chunky for hiking: the Satin Jack Tac, the Badger Attack Tac, the HG55, are some knives that are exceptionally fit for hiking.




That is a very nice way of putting it!
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I own the badger. Its a great knife for camping, but too heavy for hiking trips imo. I find it just a bit too bulky for me. This isnt saying its bad for hiking, it is just not the best for me personally:)
 
lionknife said:
Has anyone mentioned Rat makes knives in both 1095 and D-2 steel,some of the posts do not I. D. the steel.
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Some of the RAT knives made by Ontario could be had in D2 but the REAL RATS made now by Rat Cutlery/Rowen are all 1095.
 
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