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That's sum funny sh*t!
This one looks like the one in the photo. On sale. Decent price!
http://store.defense-tek.com/ctk2040b.html
CLOSEOUT: Condor Tool & Knife CTK2040B Outback Machete, 18 in., UltraBlaC2, Blue Handle, Sheath CTK2040B
Item# CTK2040B
Their price: $64.98
Our price: $25.08
Availability: Usually ships the same business day.
Features an 18.00 in., black oxide finish blade, made from 420HC high carbon surgical quality stainless steel. Blade is heat treated and annealed to approximately 53 Rockwell. Every edge is hand finished and polished to razor sharpness.
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Sad part, Pete, is it's absolutely true.
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That would be great, RAT survival and training DVD's :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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You can't learn bushcraft and survival techniques from a DVD... get on youtube, sit down with some 550 chord and watch some how-tos for knot tying. that's about the most you'll learn from a boob tube.
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Don't tell Ron Hood that.
There's a lot you can learn, it's just harder.
Watch the DVD, take notes, and go practice it.
Rinse, repeat.
There's a lot you can learn, it's just harder.
Watch the DVD, take notes, and go practice it.
Rinse, repeat.
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I agree 100 percent Horn Dog. It simply amazes me how people will spend a lot of money for a "survival knife" for this type of environment when all they need is a cheap machete. I know I'm cutting our own throat by saying this, but I would MUCH rather see someone buy a machete than any knife we make if their purpose for the edge is wilderness survival in tropical/sub-tropical environments. Sub-Tropical can include parts of Tennessee, North Carolina, parts of Texas and everything south of there. The bottom line is if you get out and practice skills you already know this.
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I have four of these machetes. I LOVE THEM. I repeat, I have four, and I'm still thinking about buying a few more of these. The one you see in the actual pictures above is the latin style machete. I used to Bash the 420HC until I actually used it for more than 20 minutes. (funny how that works, huh?). fabulous stuff. I wish I could say that was my idea!
Of course its not even close to actually being there and listen to Jeff or Mike and have the opportunity to ask questions, they telling you what you are doing wrong and so on... but me and many others have no chance of going to these courses and from all the expertise Jeff, Mike and others instructor have, i know RAT would do one heck of a training DVD...not that they will do it!, but i'm sure i would learn a LOT. I mean, they know what is important in survival and navigation...i would rather have their dvd then attend any other survival course...i trust their abilities that much. I'm not trying to be smart here, really. Just my point of view.
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I have four of these machetes. I LOVE THEM. I repeat, I have four, and I'm still thinking about buying a few more of these. The one you see in the actual pictures above is the latin style machete. I used to Bash the 420HC until I actually used it for more than 20 minutes. (funny how that works, huh?). fabulous stuff. I wish I could say that was my idea!
Two questions for you :
- are one of the 4 you have the carbon steel model?
- how does the edge hold up compaired to the 1095 condor? Or if you don't have the 1095 how does the stainless edge hold up in general?
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I don't buy into all the "survival" dvd's and videos. I always like to learn from experience or by having someone teach me in the environment where the skills will be used. If you want a good video, just record someone like me or Jeff screwing with people and pushing their buttons. Now that's entertainment. Just keep in mind, we're not gay. We just like to scare homofobes. lol Jeff's better at it. He looks like a scary child molestor to begin with.
Keeping with the machete kudos. This past weekend, I ventured into the woods to find a good fatwood stump. Found one deep in the woods and after shaving off some pieces to make sure it was worth harvesting the entire stump, I hiked out and got my truck. I drove in as far as I could and made the rest of the way carrying my machete and a rifleman's hawk. I cut the stump down and got to work chopping it up. The rifleman's hawk isn't really long or heavy enough, like an axe, to split a good size chunk of wood in a single throw. This stump was about 10" in diameter. I batonned the machete right down through the middle, using the hammer poll side of the hawk as my baton. So basically, I was smackin a machete through a stump of fatwood with a big hammer. Worked like a champ. THROUH FATWOOD. That stuff is hard and gewwy. Then I used the machete to section it all up by batonning it with the hawk and shave off everything I didn't want. I've used machetes hard like this since I was a kid. You'd be surprised what you can put one though. In the part of the world I live in, it's prime machete country all year long. It's nice to have an axe, but a machete will be a million times more useful. Plus, the price point is a lot better. Big money for a good axe. Tiny money for a good machete.
Keeping with the machete kudos. This past weekend, I ventured into the woods to find a good fatwood stump. Found one deep in the woods and after shaving off some pieces to make sure it was worth harvesting the entire stump, I hiked out and got my truck. I drove in as far as I could and made the rest of the way carrying my machete and a rifleman's hawk. I cut the stump down and got to work chopping it up. The rifleman's hawk isn't really long or heavy enough, like an axe, to split a good size chunk of wood in a single throw. This stump was about 10" in diameter. I batonned the machete right down through the middle, using the hammer poll side of the hawk as my baton. So basically, I was smackin a machete through a stump of fatwood with a big hammer. Worked like a champ. THROUH FATWOOD. That stuff is hard and gewwy. Then I used the machete to section it all up by batonning it with the hawk and shave off everything I didn't want. I've used machetes hard like this since I was a kid. You'd be surprised what you can put one though. In the part of the world I live in, it's prime machete country all year long. It's nice to have an axe, but a machete will be a million times more useful. Plus, the price point is a lot better. Big money for a good axe. Tiny money for a good machete.
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Ron Hood's video and DVDs are the best out there. If you can't learn from them, then you can't learn I highly endorse his videos. To be honest, I doubt we could cover anything that he hasn't already covered. Not saying we won't make a video some day though.
I highly endorse his videos. To be honest, I doubt we could cover anything that he hasn't already covered. Not saying we won't make a video some day though.
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Same boat here. Every other stainless machete I had seen out there would explode the instant you used it on anything other than thin sticks. Either that or go limp like a wet noodle. When I heard about Condor and saw their designs I knew I had to get one to test it out. I was impressed enough that I got two more immediately thereafter and now I'm hooked for life. 420HC makes one hell of a chopper when you get the heat treatment right.
I don't believe they make the Outback in 1095 yet...I would figure that carbon will probably have better edge retention since it sacrifices corrosion resistance. I just picked up a Rodan knife from them this weekend (and have been using it as my chef's knife in the kitchen since I lost mine in the move to my new apartment!) but I don't think that it's the best piece for comparison since it isn't even remotely the same size as the machetes I have.
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Not to sound silly or foolish, but what do you use fat wood (stumps) for? I understand that fatwood is great for startimg fires. I was wondering what you do and why that particular stump? Just curious
to know Dylside. :thumbup:Thanks. Dan
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Not to sound silly or foolish, but what do you use fat wood (stumps) for? I understand that fatwood is great for startimg fires. I was wondering what you do and why that particular stump? Just curious
Same thing as everyone else. I just harvest a bunch at a time. Get a whole stump, section it up into small pieces, and wallah! a winter supply of fatwood pieces for PSK's. I make A LOT of campfires. It's nice to have a really good supply of fatwood.
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None of my outbacks are in carbon. I have a few Latin machetes in Carbon, and they hold up great, just like a good old carbon steel machete should. The stainless holds up great, and though I've seen chipping and microchipping in other machete brands' carbon, I have yet to see it in Stainless on the Condor stuff. On the belt sander it takes just a little bit longer than carbon, and has a different feel. If you use the good old file the $&@(* out of it, you probably won't notice at all. I didn't at least. I bet you could take one of the stainless machetes, give it to an experianced South American, and he probably wouldn't even notice it was stainless, except that it rusts less. (If he keeps it still long enough for it to rust...which they don't
He would probably fatten up the edge with the file though.Speaking of videos and guys who are nerds ) this may be a vid that could help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ILcdz_8Tw
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Good video, Joe. You should go to Hollywood
He tried once already. Saddest thing we ever saw. Poor little guy came back a spirit broken cracked out prostitute. Once we got him some crack he was all better though. So..easy fix there.:thumbup: